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Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by bhouston on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:20AM (#42725431)
Arg, they make the screen look absolutely huge with that large front glass panel during most of the video and I was thinking to myself, nice! But then at the end they actually show how large the bezels are underneath the glass and it is quite disappointing. Someday we'll have modern smartphone like mini-bezels (a few mm at most) in our handheld gaming consoles, but I guess not yet.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by actionfromafar on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:24AM (#42725496)
Screen estate all to the edge of the device can be annoying too, just a wrinkle on your clothes will then cover a bit of the screen.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by loloquwowndueo on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:30AM (#42725600)
Play with no clothes on, problem solved.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by riskable on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:41AM (#42725797)
Commando gaming is a time-honored tradition!
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by dcow on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:32AM (#42725649)
Yes, because our chiseled bellies don’t get in the way.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by loloquwowndueo on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:47AM (#42725896)
Tuck it in bro!
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by encomiast on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:31AM (#42725630)
You clearly have not seen the wrinkles on my body.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by loloquwowndueo on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:47AM (#42725890)
And I thank the gods for that ;)
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:32AM (#42725653)
It's not a tablet. It has physical controllers. You don't use a switch by grabbing the screen.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by JohnBooty on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:29AM (#42726577)
well, first, the Switch does have a touch screen.... =)

but I think parent poster is referring to the somewhat common situation with portable devices where you're watching/playing in bed and the device is propped up on a pillow or blanket or something

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by ranger_danger on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:49AM (#42726871)
There are many people who do though, and there are many games that heavily utilize the touchscreen.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by rekoil on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:22AM (#42725447)
Gotta leave something for the Nintendo Switch 2 OLED
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by xattt on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:36AM (#42725721)
And upsell a magnifying lens to make the screen bigger.

/s

(1) https://www.thevintagegamers.com/2013/11/game-boy-screen-mag...

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by JohnBooty on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:37AM (#42726680)
Personal opinion, but I didn't really have that reaction. That screen is still significantly bigger than the Switch 1.

Honestly it looks like a great size and if the bezels were smaller, it might be a problem to grip the device (with joycons detached) without hitting the touch screen.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Ecco on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:28AM (#42725557)
Oh, sneaky! I fell into the trap without even realizing. Thanks for pointing it out!
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by everdrive on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:55AM (#42726011)
I’ll never understand why people hate bezels so much. They have no bearing on the screen size, but merely offer a basis for comparison when you’re looking at the screen.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by pimanrules on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:12AM (#42726317)
What's not to understand? If the bezels were smaller, either the screen would be larger or the system would be smaller. Both are desirable.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:44AM (#42725853)
Maybe they wanted more battery life without making it thicker? I want to see what the teardown looks like.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by hn92726819 on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:35AM (#42725702)
Do we know if the aspect ratio is the same? Maybe they're demonstrating Switch 1 games that have a slightly different aspect ratio, but can be updated to fit the new screen in the future?
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by lewispollard on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:40AM (#42725786)
That's a new Mario Kart game they're showing on the screen, not the Switch 1 version.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by hn92726819 on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:19AM (#42726422)
I didn't realize. That's disappointing
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Dalewyn on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:29AM (#42725576)
Microbezels are aesthetically great but practically horrible.

Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day, we presumably use these things instead of having one sit looking happy on a bookshelf.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by bhouston on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:30AM (#42725599)
> Having some practical space to grab onto wins at the end of the day,

I guess I hold onto the controller parts on the sides, not the center component. It isn't a tablet.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Dalewyn on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:33AM (#42725669)
It's a portable device, at some point or another I'm going to handle it without the side controllers. Having some place to grab the thing is basic ergonomics, much less something designed with kids in mind.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:56AM (#42726027)
Where you touch it when not in use doesn't matter. You're not going to use it that way, because nothing uses the touchscreen for gameplay.

[edit] originally I said it didn't have a touchscreen, but I've been reminded that the original does actually have one and it's just never used by anything because ever requiring it in a game would be really dumb when the entire premise of the switch is that it's dockable.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by evujumenuk on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:59AM (#42726102)
Huh? It totally has a touch screen — it has to, for backward compatibility.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:02AM (#42726157)
Sorry, you're right. I forgot because literally nothing supports it other than maybe wifi password entry and navigating some menus.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Izkata on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:07AM (#42726251)
And the eshop. And at least one of the games I play regularly uses it in several places for text input.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday January 16, 2025 @10:14AM (#42726350)
> at least one of the games I play regularly uses it in several places for text input

Hehe. Ok, but, question:

Do the other interactions in the game use the controllers?

Because if so then you're still necessarily holding the controllers and not the screen.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by jacobgkau on Thursday January 16, 2025 @06:45PM (#42732416)
Clubhouse 51 has a section of games that utilize the touch screen, such as air hockey (along with others that're nice to be able to go between the touch screen and joysticks for, like the card games where the touch screen's a lot faster to use for moving cards around).
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Dalewyn on Thursday January 16, 2025 @02:48PM (#42729986)
>Where you touch it when not in use doesn't matter.

Being able to easily grab something is always important, especially anything portable. I'm going to pull it out of a bag, move it across a table, etc. and having microbezels gets in the way of that by reducing the useful grabbing space.

Smartphones are the epitome of horrible here. With silky smooth glass and/or sheer aluminum/plastic on all sides with nanobezels (or no bezels at all...) and razor thin thickness, they are a fucking pain to grab and handle without dropping them. Most of us put them into a case to give them the necessary girth and friction for practical handling.

Mobile device design and design in general nowadays focus on aesthetics way too much to the detriment of practicality. People handle and use them at the end of the day, they aren't for oogling.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday January 16, 2025 @11:37PM (#42734141)
> I'm going to pull it out of a bag, move it across a table, etc. and having microbezels gets in the way of that by reducing the useful grabbing space.

I think this is a weird you thing. You're allowed to touch the screen. It's not made of lava.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Dalewyn on Friday January 17, 2025 @05:00AM (#42735879)
Screens are smooth and decidedly fragile compared to the rest of the chassis. You especially don't want to put much if any pressure on it, which you might need to do for a firm grip.

You also probably don't want to put too much handgrime on the screen, further incentivizing an unsecure grip.

Seriously, big bezels are great. I don't care how great something looks as decor if I can't handle it practically.

Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by Salgat on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:32AM (#42725643)
At the same time, a larger handheld to fit those big bezels is unfortunate because we don't have a proper replacement for the gameboy/ds line.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by bigstrat2003 on Thursday January 16, 2025 @06:56PM (#42732500)
The switch isn't a handheld though. It's way too big to be a viable replacement for a 3DS in that regard, Nintendo just gave up on that market segment for whatever reason.
Re:Nintendo Switch 2 by timv on Thursday January 16, 2025 @09:31PM (#42733466)
Phones have a lot of that market covered, and the Switch Lite gets close enough for a lot of people who want something other than a phone.

I guess Nintendo don't see enough left over space to bother trying.