Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by jandrese on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:08PM
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The big grain of salt with that "the 5070 performs like a 4090" is that it is talking about having the card fake in 3 extra frames for each one it properly generates. In terms of actual performance boost a 5070 is about 10% faster than a 4070.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by p1esk on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:19PM
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Source for your 10% number?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by brokenmachine on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @05:43PM
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I heard them say that in the Hardware Unboxed youtube video yesterday.
I think it's this one https://youtu.be/olfgrLqtXEo
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by p1esk on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @07:03PM
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I don’t see any testing performed in that video. Did I miss it?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by brokenmachine on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @05:00PM
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No testing, they estimated from the available information.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by rafaelmn on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @08:31PM
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I think people are speculating based on graphs Nvidia has on their product page.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by buran77 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:43PM
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According to Nvidia [0], DLSS4 with Multi Frame Generation means "15 out of 16 pixels are generated by AI". Even that "original" first out of four frames is rendered in 1080p and AI upscaled. So it's not just 3 extra frames, it's also 75% of the original one.
[0] https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-...
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by Reason077 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:34PM
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Does a laser printer need to be connected to a UPS?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by grujicd on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:20PM
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Faulty iron in another room fried my LaserJet. UPS isn't just for loss of power, it should also protect from power spikes. Btw. printer was connected to a (cheap) surge protector strip which didn't help. On positive side nothing else was fried and laser was fixed for 40 euros.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by adolph on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @06:06PM
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Is it ironic that the electrically expensive part of the LaserJet, the fused, is pretty much an iron in a different format?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by iwontberude on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:41PM
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It's not connected to the UPS directly, it's causing voltage dip on the circuit tripping the UPS.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by UltraSane on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:48PM
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no
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by bob1029 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:49PM
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I would be careful connecting laser printers to consumer UPS products. On paper all the numbers may line up, but I don't know why you'd want to if you could otherwise avoid it.
If the printer causes your UPS to trip when merely sharing the circuit, imagine the impact to the semiconductors and other active elements when connected as a protected load.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by iwontberude on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:20PM
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That’s because you have a Brother laser printer which charges its capacitors in the least graceful way possible.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by lukevp on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:20PM
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This happens with my Samsung laser printer too, is it not all laser printers?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by bob1029 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:54PM
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It's mostly the fuser that is sucking down all the power. In some models, it will flip on and off very quickly to provide a fast warm up (low thermal mass). You can often observe the impact of this in the lights flickering.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by throwaway81348 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:57PM
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Please expand, I am intrigued!
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by dogline on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @06:56PM
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If my Brother laser printer starts while I have the ceiling fan going on the same circuit, the breaker will trip. That's the only thing in my house that will do it. It must be a huge momentary current draw.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by UltraSane on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:48PM
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Why would you have your laser printer connected to your UPS?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by pshirshov on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @06:10PM
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Your UPS is improperly sized. A 5kW Victron Multiplus II with one Pylontech US5000 would cost you around €1600 and should be able to carry all your house, not just your printer.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs
by IIsi50MHz on Friday January 10, 2025 @10:08PM
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Thanks for those recommendations. From a few minutes of searching, looks like they would cost 1.5x to 2x that in USA.
We decided to start very small, because we couldn't figure out from the websites of various backup energy installers who was least likely to grossly inflate specs and prices. So, we recently bought a low-end expandable Anker Solix C1000 for around $500 USD as manual reserve power, mainly for the fridge. It seems to be intended more for "glamping", but Anker has good reputation for various unrelated products.
But NVIDIA is claiming that the 5070 is equivalent to the 4090, so maybe they’re expecting you to wait a generation and get the lower card if you care about TDP? Although I suspect that equivalence only applies to gaming; probably for ML you’d still need the higher-tier card.