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Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by crooked-v on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @11:24PM (#42571619)
I feel like that's been helped along culturally by fandom.com buying out various independent wikis and then shittifying them to the point of unusability.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by TkTech on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @11:39PM (#42571672)
There's an ongoing mini-revolution against Fandom, with the wikis that have the manpower moving away to other platforms like wiki.gg, WeirdGloop, or just self-hosted. Minecraft, WoW, Runescape, LoL, etc.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by j3s on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @11:58PM (#42571754)
yep! i recommend indie wiki buddy for discovering these sorts of community-led wikis.

the extension recognizes when you’re on fandom and recommends equivalent community wikis instead

fandom will not take down old wikis (that’d be bad for SEO), so the fandom content persists even after a full community migration.

just one of the many shitty things that company does.

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by shnock on Thursday January 02, 2025 @12:06AM (#42571799)
This? https://getindie.wiki/

Thank you from a long-time hater of Fandom and PE-driven enshittification and lover of community-driven knowledge work

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by doublepg23 on Thursday January 02, 2025 @12:01AM (#42571774)
I'm glad https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page survived Fandom.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by diggan on Thursday January 02, 2025 @06:08AM (#42573487)
If only we could have something similar but official for Starfield.

For some very stupid reason, Bethesda decided to launch official modding support with Starfield while their wiki is "temporarily down for maintenance". But it's been like that for at least 1 year, so seems unlikely to ever come back, and who the fuck takes down something so vital for a feature you're shipping in a major game anyways, without letting a read-only copy remain online at least?

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by Kye on Thursday January 02, 2025 @08:34AM (#42574255)
The moved-out Minecraft wiki is finally starting to get competitive in search with Fandom. At least on DuckDuckGo. I used to have to dig for it.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by KPGv2 on Wednesday January 01, 2025 @11:48PM (#42571709)
Ugh, that explains why the Miraculous Ladybug wiki is so godawful.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by emodendroket on Thursday January 02, 2025 @12:46AM (#42572010)
I guess that doesn't help but it feels like our cultural moment doesn't have the same kind of spirit that made people want to make a Wiki.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by brutal_chaos_ on Thursday January 02, 2025 @01:03AM (#42572088)
How is fandom shitty now? I'm asking from a newer user perspective. What did standalone wikis do better?

My initial guess is ads, but is there more to it?

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by krige on Thursday January 02, 2025 @01:19AM (#42572176)
Ads, awful layout on desktop, beyond awful on mobile, slow server responses. On the flipside more wikis are actually moving OFF Fandom lately, for instance to wiki.gg
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by blharr on Thursday January 02, 2025 @03:13AM (#42572677)
Adding autoplay videos that are tangentially related to the wiki page.

Said videos take about 10 seconds to show up and will cause the screen to scroll to a different point from where you are currently reading

Their privacy policy is exhaustive, and you opt in by default to sharing your data with Google and 7 other analytics providers

UI noise like "share to Instagram/YouTube/LinkedIn" that probably 0.1% of people even consider using

When you're on a specific game wiki, you care only about that wiki content, but fandom places a Fandom navigation bar and side menu

Their default email strategy sent almost daily updates for random posts on (unrelated) FANDOM community when I made a couple comments on a specific wiki a decade ago.

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by WorldMaker on Thursday January 02, 2025 @10:04AM (#42575000)
Also, on mobile the video ads plus Fandom navigation bar now take up a sticky combined 50% or more of the viewport until you find the close button.

Also, Fandom got its start by taking advantage of the easy, permissive nature of CC licenses of major early wikis, including much of Fandom started as chunks of even Wikipedia itself that got excised for "relevance" or other "non-encylopedia" factors. Even in some of the cases where communities have decided to leave Fandom, Fandom believes it remains their right to scrape the community's new site and not need to include links back to the "real" home, so Fandom itself becomes an SEO disaster for the community. Even communities that had hoped to protect themselves from such situations by choosing a more restrictive CC license with the NC (Non Commercial) clause have been struggling with revoking Fandom's access to their content against Fandom's legal team saying that Fandom's commercial waver to the content was both retroactive and in perpetuity, and those wikis would have known that at the time.

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by naravara on Thursday January 02, 2025 @01:13AM (#42572149)
The pages are basically unreadable on mobile.
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by fractalcounty on Thursday January 02, 2025 @05:44AM (#42573371)
The last time I visited a Fandom wiki on mobile, it autoplayed two videos simultaneously at full volume and required me to scroll through 75% of the page to get to the actual article, which itself was also full of ads. It was so bad that it motivated me to setup my own DNS server with ad blocklists
Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by xeonmc on Thursday January 02, 2025 @09:44AM (#42574827)

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Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by giantrobot on Thursday January 02, 2025 @11:57AM (#42576136)
Besides ads and points sibling posts made: Fandom does a terrible job making a wiki an actual wiki. Their infoboxes are garbage, there's awful category navigation, and just general "wikiness" is entirely removed or hidden. Fandom presents wikis like they're SEO spam sites rather than actual references. Check out Wookiepedia or Memory Alpha on the Wayback machine sometime and compare them to current Fandom wikis. Even the thinly styled MediaWiki was vastly more navigable than the shit that is Fandom. The footers Fandom adds with advertisements of unrelated other wikis is also ridiculous.

Fandom is SEO spam infested with intrusive and obnoxious ads and is terrible at being an actual wiki. It fails at everything but co-opting community generated content to make money.

Re:Blogs rot. Wikis wait by anthk on Thursday January 02, 2025 @11:58AM (#42576147)
Install Libredirect for Firefox/Chrome compatible browsers and set the Fandom redirection to something else.