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Re:Notes on China by jncfhnb on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:41PM (#42542385)
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Re:Notes on China by dang on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:51PM (#42542969)
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Maybe the article is bad (I haven't looked), but a bad article does not justify a shallow dismissal. We want curious conversation here.

Re:Notes on China by jncfhnb on Sunday December 29, 2024 @04:31PM (#42543397)
Does selecting standout quotes to the forefront not foster curious conversation more than headline reactions?
Re:Notes on China by AnimalMuppet on Sunday December 29, 2024 @07:41PM (#42545110)
Perhaps it does. "This is just bizarre" doesn't do much to promote curious conversation, though. Maybe say what you think is wrong with it?

(I mean, sure, you're saying it's self-evident what's wrong with it. And, to many people, maybe it is. Your words are still a shallow dismissal, though.

Re:Notes on China by dang on Monday December 30, 2024 @01:13AM (#42546949)
No—based on long experience I'd say it doesn't. What fosters curious conversation is thoughtful, reflective* responses.

* by 'reflective' I mean something like the opposite of reflexive: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

Re:Notes on China by gradus_ad on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:58PM (#42542521)
I listened to one of this guy's podcasts recently. The guest was impressive but Dwarkesh... Not so much. His questions were meandering and made it clear he didn't have much of a grasp on the subject matter. Does not surprise me that he is perplexed about the totalitarian regime's penchant for watching people.
Re:Notes on China by DevX101 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:25PM (#42542745)
For someone who interviews experts across a wide variety of disciplines (I've watched military professors, anthropologists, AI experts on his channel), I'd say Dwarkesh does a pretty damn good job. His interview with the Naval War college, he asked some mid questions, but the professor was able to use his questions as a launching platform to give informed insight, and it's one of my favorite interviews. I can't think of anyone else who interviews as well with such a balance of depth and breadth. It's clear he's a voracious learner and I'd bet he'll be even better than he is now in a few years. He's also really young, I'm not sure he's 30 yet.
Re:Notes on China by rad_gruchalski on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:50PM (#42542458)
So he would be doing exactly what the Chinese government wants. As a US president the guy would shoot himself in the foot.
Re:Notes on China by CobrastanJorji on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:23PM (#42542737)
It's not wrong, though. If your goal is purely "win hearts and minds in China," doing whatever the Chinese government wants is good step. It is, however, not clear that this would be a good primary goal for a US president.
Re:Notes on China by oldasfuk on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:29PM (#42542780)
Clearly it would only win hearts, the point of winning minds is to persuade them to your viewpoint.

If you really want to win hearts alone, drop all visa and foreign registration requirements, close Pacific military bases, cede Hawaii. There's so much you can do to win hearts.

Re:Notes on China by CobrastanJorji on Monday December 30, 2024 @01:25PM (#42552055)
The easiest way to win minds to your side is to change your mind to match theirs.
Re:Notes on China by dragonelite on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:36PM (#42542836)
Yeah its really weird because the US already did this stuff during Obama's presidency, hell talk of the town was the US and China should form a G2 back then. Trump also recently made same sort of G2 comment, China declined both times.

You had China bailed out the US and what did China get in return the US destabilising Asia with their Pivot to Asia policy. Trump started out this way and what did trump do start a trade and tech war with China. I don't US word or signature is worth shit tho all it has is violence and fear to work with these days.

Re:Notes on China by blackeyeblitzar on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:48PM (#42542437)
Yea not knowing why cameras are everywhere is naive.

And the fix to “winning” Chinese citizens over is to dismantle the CCP, by practicing asymmetric warfare - like economically weakening them - until citizens are ready for change.

Re:Notes on China by ahazred8ta on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:05PM (#42542585)
In the 1980s, "Reagan's great director of Central Intelligence, William Casey, asked the CIA's Soviet Division two obvious questions: Where is the Soviet Union weak? and Where is it most vulnerable? The answer he received was: We don't know. No one's ever asked this before."