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Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by pishpash on Saturday December 28, 2024 @01:35PM (#42533270)
Referrals and networking? When has submitting a resume to a portal ever been the way to find a job other than a cookie cutter one?

Apply like a bot, work like a bot.

Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by nsxwolf on Saturday December 28, 2024 @01:43PM (#42533349)
I haven’t seen the power of referrals for 10 years now. At work I can give you a “referral” by uploading your resume to our ATS. That’s it. It receives no more consideration than if you were to click Easy Apply on LinkedIn as far as I’m aware.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by Terr_ on Saturday December 28, 2024 @04:00PM (#42534688)
I wonder if we might see the rise a broad but weak "yes that's a real person" referral system as opposed to "I know that person will be good for the job" referrals.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by yuliyp on Saturday December 28, 2024 @01:59PM (#42533481)
That type of referral indeed is mostly worthless (it might get you actually looked at by a human instead of rejected before that). Useful referrals are the kind where you go chat with your friend, figure out what they want in a job, then go find the hiring manager and tell them about this amazing ex-colleague who's a perfect fit for the role. That gets the candidate treated seriously. Sometimes it doesn't work out, but definitely gives the candidate a fair shot.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by ghaff on Saturday December 28, 2024 @02:36PM (#42533808)
At a former employer, I sort of hated the referral ambassador or whatever it was called thing (with financial rewards attached I think). I always felt it encouraged quantity over quality. I actually sent a couple people I knew off on their merry way and suggested a couple others just go to the job site. On the other hand, I got several jobs through people I actually knew and had worked with in some manner.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by RicoElectrico on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:24PM (#42534307)
I referred two friends at my former employer and the process has changed in the span of 5 years; first one needed at least a short recommendation, second was pretty much fire and forget (and hope for the bonus if they get hired)
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by sensanaty on Saturday December 28, 2024 @01:59PM (#42533485)
Referrals in my company basically just guarantee that the resume isn't immediately thrown in the trash, doesn't really help anyone's odds otherwise. I suspect in most companies it's similar, if they even get that much of a benefit (unless you're upper management (aka nepotism) I guess)
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by ghaff on Saturday December 28, 2024 @02:49PM (#42533938)
Nepotism is most associated with relatives although I guess it doesn't have to be. But I've definitely gotten several jobs through senior managers I had worked with which largely bypassed the whole HR system where it existed.
Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by Terr_ on Saturday December 28, 2024 @04:01PM (#42534694)
> Nepotism is most associated with relatives although I guess it doesn't have to be.

IIRC "nepotism" is specifically family/relatives, and the larger Venn-diagram circle would be "favoritism."

Re:I Automated My Job Application Process by ghaff on Saturday December 28, 2024 @06:45PM (#42535954)
Wikipedia disagrees even if relatives seems to be the predominant meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism