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Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by mixdup on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:22PM (#42426943)
you can also just not connect it to a network
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by Scoundreller on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:25PM (#42426958)
Just a matter of time before they start taking data updates and ads over an ATSC or FM subchannel.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by acdha on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:44PM (#42427042)
My money’s on a joint venture with Comcast, Cox, Verizon, et al. to use the Wi-Fi access points their routers operate – even if you use your own router and block them, your neighbors almost certainly don’t. Most them already have business ties and would love to have better ad targeting data.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by SR2Z on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:48AM (#42428594)
Man, at that point I would open up the back and snip/desolder the antenna itself. I hate ads on my TV, ESPECIALLY when I've already paid for the damn thing!
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bttrpll on Monday December 16, 2024 @07:57PM (#42437237)
Sounds similar to Amazon Sidewalk...
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by kelnos on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:34PM (#42426999)
That's highly speculative, but even if that did end up happening, the smart TVs sold today wouldn't magically gain that capability, especially if you keep it off the network and never update it.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by notyourwork on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:33PM (#42426996)
Or 5g with a SIM card.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by sigio on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:55PM (#42427083)
Fine with that, free data on my modem
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by M95D on Monday December 16, 2024 @02:34AM (#42428812)
You won't be able to remove it. It will be an eSIM.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by GauntletWizard on Sunday December 15, 2024 @09:52PM (#42427597)
Already happened with cars. That's what OnStar was/is.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by wkat4242 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @08:29PM (#42427228)
I heard that some 2024 models refuse to go through the setup wizard without internet access. Not sure what happens if you disconnect it after setup though. But my Amazon Fire Stick already refuses to do anything without internet even though I could stream locally with vlc.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by hedora on Sunday December 15, 2024 @10:01PM (#42427656)
That’s a solid reason to return the tv, though it’s probably worth it to check online before purchasing one.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bryanrasmussen on Monday December 16, 2024 @04:33AM (#42429446)
I wonder if this is a market specific thing, that is to say if it is turned on or off depending on which market you're in. For example I wonder if there are pertinent regulations applying in EU, if so I would expect it were turned off in EU.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bombcar on Monday December 16, 2024 @10:54AM (#42432172)
I can confirm that at least the V4K43M-08 and the V4K50M-08 don't do that.

(It kind of implies you need to continue and update, but you can just go to HDMI and it doesn't bother you anymore.)