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Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by mkjones on Friday July 13, 2012 @02:25PM (#4241112)
What are some cases where you've been asked for a password in an iOS app? I've only ever seen this for initial login with like facebook or instagram, and when updating apps (very annoying, I agree).
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by moe on Friday July 13, 2012 @08:41PM (#4242648)
Does the browser count?

The iPad browser is a trainwreck in this regard. Not only doesn't it support LastPass or 1Password. It also utterly fails to remember passwords that were painfully entered manually.

For most sites it simply doesn't recognize the login at all. On some sites it works intermittently, often forgetting the password for no reason or the auto-fill not working reliably.

And don't get me started on HTTP-Auth. You can save those sites (by making a bookmark) but you get a phishing warning every single time you access it.

I have pretty much abandoned the iPad for browsing for this reason. The only time I fire it up is to lookup a movie on rotten tomatoes.

I'm still bitter this device was pitched to me as "the internet in your hands". It's not up to the task. Not even close.

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by rje on Friday July 13, 2012 @10:05PM (#4242846)
By default auto-fill is off on the ipad, did you try turning it on for names and passwords?

(I agree that the default behavior sucks)

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by div on Friday July 13, 2012 @02:36PM (#4241180)
The AppStore. It's the worst offender.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by sil3ntmac on Friday July 13, 2012 @03:05PM (#4241323)
Only problem I have with AppStore is that it requires my password for free downloads. Paid download? Hell yes, require my password if I haven't typed it in for 15 minutes.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by harryf on Friday July 13, 2012 @03:13PM (#4241358)
I have kids. I'm happy they _always_ ask for a password... Free apps can be malicious e.g giving away location to parties unknown. But still you're right - this could be an option users can decide.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by jiggy2011 on Friday July 13, 2012 @03:28PM (#4241434)
This is part of a deeper problem with most mobile OSes. I might give my phone to somebody so they can make a quick call or look something up online. However, I don't really want them being able to dig through my history or be automatically logged into my email etc.

If I had a child I'd want to be able to let them use my phone but only in a special mode that allowed access to a limited number of whitelisted websites & apps.

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by dredmorbius on Friday July 13, 2012 @03:34PM (#4241469)
Schneier today:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/07/all-or-nothing... http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/soups/2012/proceedings/a2_Hayashi.pdf

But: yes.

I'd like my phone to offer a few different "shells" of access:

- Emergency calls.

- "Share" or "play" mode. Selected photos or apps.

- "Mobile" -- ready access to stuff I need, but not distractions (the "Car Panel" on some Android phones is somewhat like this, but I'd appreciate if it didn't encourage use while driving).

- "Full" complete and potentially immersive access.

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by maigret on Sunday July 15, 2012 @05:17AM (#4246575)
There are currently a few projects ongoing with enabling VMs on smartphones. The way it was thought is that you would put your corporate stuff on a protected VM that would have no external app install, and the rest (games, social networks...) would be on the "fun" VM. That way, the company data would be better protected.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by TheGateKeeper on Saturday July 14, 2012 @01:16AM (#4243204)
This isn't a popular sentiment but the way I solve this is not to let anyone borrow or touch my devices.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by flyt on Friday July 13, 2012 @04:05PM (#4241606)
iOS 6 removes the needs to enter passwords for app updates. finally.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by pooriaazimi on Friday July 13, 2012 @07:34PM (#4242506)
I haven't lied if I say it's one of the sweetest things I've found in iOS 6.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by Cloven on Friday July 13, 2012 @03:03PM (#4241312)
The good thing about the AppStore password timing out after 15 minutes is that you can hand your child the ipad/iphone/etc. and not get a surprise $5,000 itunes bill.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by untog on Friday July 13, 2012 @03:35PM (#4241475)
That's an edge case, though. Why not make it a configurable option?
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by bmj on Friday July 13, 2012 @04:12PM (#4241630)
This is definitely not an edge case. How many kids do you see at the grocery store with their noses in an iPhone will their parent(s) shop?

That said, it would be nice to have the option of telling the app to cache your credentials.

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by untog on Friday July 13, 2012 @04:16PM (#4241649)
Edge case was perhaps the wrong term. It certainly is not a majority case. As I said- make it an option, everyone is happy.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by sirclueless on Friday July 13, 2012 @11:31PM (#4243029)
Not the person who turns on the option to make their life easier and then complains because their kid spent $400.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by untog on Saturday July 14, 2012 @07:36PM (#4245642)
?! Are you suggesting that everyone should be denied the choice because some people are unable to make informed decisions?
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by yuliyp on Saturday July 14, 2012 @02:36AM (#4243377)
This is confusing authentication and authorization. Is this phone legitimately tied to this Apple ID? Yes. Is the owner of the account authorized to make such a purchase? No.

A short appstore PIN could solve this much more easily.

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by radq on Saturday July 14, 2012 @03:21AM (#4243456)
I'm not so sure having _yet another_ PIN for users to remember would be a good idea. And besides, a short PIN would be far easier to deduce by looking over a person's shoulder.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by coob on Friday July 13, 2012 @08:09PM (#4242581)
It is a configurable option (Settings -> General -> Restrictions)
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by extempore on Saturday July 14, 2012 @06:16AM (#4243757)
Yeah, it's configurable between "Demand my password again if 15 minutes has passed" and "Demand my password again immediately." You can tell you're going in the wrong direction when you first have to "enable restrictions" hoping to relax the restriction. I take it you've never actually tried to configure this option.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by chris_wot on Sunday July 15, 2012 @03:49PM (#4247872)
Holy not an edge case Batman! That is most definitely a very common reason to timeout the password...
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by moron on Saturday July 14, 2012 @12:32PM (#4244613)
Oh my god that is so not an edge case.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by dmitriy_ko on Friday July 13, 2012 @09:00PM (#4242691)
How about using fingerprint scanner for authentication? Or face recognition using front-facing camera? It's 2012 after all.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by _morgs_ on Monday July 16, 2012 @03:17AM (#4249698)
The Samsung Galaxy S3 has face recognition. It can be unlocked using a photo of the user. Google Images search, point cam at laptop, bingo you're in.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by nileshtrivedi on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @09:27PM (#4263958)
They "fixed" this in JellyBean.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by einhverfr on Friday July 13, 2012 @10:55PM (#4242949)
too many false positives.

Now, an SD card with a certificate plus face recognition might be ok ;-)

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by ricardobeat on Saturday July 14, 2012 @12:51AM (#4243167)
Why an SD card? The phone itself is already a portable device you control.
Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by einhverfr on Saturday July 14, 2012 @01:24AM (#4243228)
It depends on the app but at least in the areas I work (business apps relating to tracking money) I wouldn't assume that device authentication is sufficient.

But for biometrics, keep in mind that biometric systems are currently seen as the most subject to false positives of any authentication system out there with the possible exception of improperly maintained and insufficiently strong passwords.

Re:Logins are Dead, and Mobile Killed Them by rogerbinns on Friday July 13, 2012 @05:33PM (#4242078)
How about each Google app I install? Or any app that has Dropbox integration? Or Trello. Pretty much every app is an island and doesn't know that you have already entered your username and password numerous times in other apps.