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Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by navane on Thursday December 12, 2024 @08:57PM (#42405337)
That concerns a small minority of cases, the vast majority is elderly dying people who want to keep their dignity. By steering the discussion to that minority, which even itself is still debatable, you risk flushing the child with the bath water.
Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by mensetmanusman on Thursday December 12, 2024 @11:54PM (#42406010)
By hesitating to discuss, you enable bureaucrats to suggest maid when they want to save money instead of treating a disability (which has already happened in the case of the Olympian).
Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by defrost on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:00AM (#42406038)
The single bureacrat in question was flagged, investigated, and removed from contact with veterans.

Their action in suggesting MAID was not policy, was rapidly caught, and was the subject of a very public inquiry.

Had the suggestion been followed up by the veterens in question there were layers in place, interviews and checks, to make sure that MAID was both desired and appropriate.

Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by mensetmanusman on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:08AM (#42406065)
This is like trusting people to behave while owning guns. Curse of knowledge writ large.
Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by defrost on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:15AM (#42406100)
It's a demonstration that the system currently in place has verification checks.

No one was killed against their will here.

There's a legitimate debate to be had on the question of whether it was even wrong to alert an injured veteren that MAID was an option given they had the free will and the gumption to reply No way, Feck off, Not interested.

The onus here should be on secondary interviews sorting out whether a person really did have insurmountable chronic pain and problems or whether they were depressed and lacked resources to deal with a situation.

Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by mensetmanusman on Friday December 13, 2024 @08:23AM (#42408199)
There have been people killed against their will at the time because they previously signed something to ignore their future self.
Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by defrost on Friday December 13, 2024 @08:42AM (#42408325)
Under MAID and against their will?

Can you provide details of this?

Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by larme on Thursday December 12, 2024 @09:08PM (#42405382)
The same logic applies to capital punishment
Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by addicted on Thursday December 12, 2024 @11:55PM (#42406017)
I don’t follow.

How does this apply to capital punishment?

Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by itake on Friday December 13, 2024 @12:01AM (#42406042)
Many people are opposed to capital punishment due to the small minority of innocent folks it eliminates.

> By steering the discussion to that [innocent] minority, which even itself is still debatable, you risk flushing the child with the bath water [and killing the really bad criminals].

Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by areoform on Friday December 13, 2024 @06:27AM (#42407665)
There's a difference. The people with MAID choose to die.

When innocent people are killed via capital punishment, they have no choice.

And it's not a "small minority" either. We don't have good numbers, but it's significant enough to be over 22% or roughly 1 in 5. That's not a small minority.

For Florida, since 1973, 30 people awaiting execution have been exonerated so far. The state has executed 106 people.

Out of 136 cases, 30 were shown to be innocent beyond any reasonable doubt. I have no doubt that there might be other innocent people within the 106 that were executed.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/innocen...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_in_Flo...

Re:Canada euthanasia now accounts for nearly one in 20 deaths by cocacola1 on Thursday December 12, 2024 @10:24PM (#42405691)
I don't think Canada has the death penalty.