Re:Kagi Search API
by guappa on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @09:37AM
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They say they don't, we can't know if it's true or not.
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You're right, but you can't be sure of anything in a greater sense.
The only thing we can do is vote with our wallet if we see that they have lied all the way.
This will only lead us to Russel's teapot [0].
BTW, their current privacy policy is at [1].
Voting with our wallet doesn't work, because we can't know if they lie or not.
Re:Kagi Search API
by hgomersall on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @09:49AM
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Have they made a Ulysses Pact to enforce their position?
Re:Kagi Search API
by hiddencost on Tuesday December 03, 2024 @09:42AM
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We could of course also enact a robust regulatory state with the ability to audit and enforce these things, but we've decided against that it seems.
I don't know where you're from, but on this side of the pond we have GPDR.
How is GDPR enforced though? With enough disregard for the law, the service provider can just lie about the data they have. I don’t know of a mechanism where you can actually force an audit to confirm that. You can basically ask the provider for all the data they have about you, but you can’t find out if they’re lying.
In the US, we don't.
the teapot analogy actually falls on kagi to provide proof.
and i doubt mean a non biding privacy policy. heck metabook and google both always had one saying the same thing
Google was showing my search history since forever, and they never claimed to not storing it?
what google have to do with this?
Everything is based on trust. How do you know that your phone is not sending your browser history once per month at random time at night, along with random legitimate-looking service?
My phone's software is open source, kagi (and the others) aren't.
By running an open source OS for which I can confirm the contents of all outgoing connections.
You can hope, but even then processor microcode is likely closed source.
And you cannot really confirm the above use case very well. What if it is so sophisticated that it knows when it is being monitored, or it is so random or well hidden, that it might take years to spot.