Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut biome

Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by BhavdeepSethi on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @06:49PM (#42251429)

TLDR; People who drank coffee regularly had higher levels (eight times) of a gut bacteria called Lawsonibacter asaccharolyticus. The research team acknowledges that they do not know what impact higher levels of L. asaccharolyticus may have on people, but suggest it is likely associated with health benefits that have been attributed to coffee drinking.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by Qem on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @09:04PM (#42252214)

I wonder if decaf has the same effect.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by gdjskshh on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @09:13PM (#42252266)

Hedge your bets - drink decaf instead of regular every other day.

Nicotine gum sort of helps for the decaf days. I'm looking for other non-caff stimulant options if anyone has thoughts.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by blacksmith_tb on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @12:17AM (#42253153)

Ephedra[1] aka "Mormon tea" or Ma Huang, though it can cause palpitations (and clear your sinuses, something for everyone).

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra_(plant)#Human_use

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by dingnuts on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @12:15AM (#42253137)

please do not casually recommend nicotine to people. it is not like caffeine. maybe you are able to use it a little without getting addicted, but that would make you an outlier. it is not a replacement for a cup of coffee in any form, and you're casually suggesting others play fast and loose with a nasty and horribly addictive substance.

God and nicotine gum is so nasty, it makes you burp and has this weird acrid chemical taste. Just awful.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by gdjskshh on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @10:07AM (#42256645)

The mode of injestion impacts how addictive something is. Nicotine via gum is less addictive that smoking, which is less addictive than vaping.

The unpleasant experience you describe also helps to limit addictiveness, as does not using two days in a row.

I find caffeine much more addictive than nicotine. We're all different.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by jazzyjackson on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @10:19PM (#42252574)

Yerba mate is differently caffeinated (hopefully you know decaf is really just half caff), plus it's kinda fun getting the gourd and the bomba. I recommend meta mate out of Berlin, they export the good stuff out of Brazil, much greener than grocery store / commodity varieties

There's mushroom coffees that claim to be stimulating, you can look at four sigma for that, tho my favorite was their instant coffee with cordyceps, good pre workout.

Then there is breathwork of the wimhof variety, "get high on your own supply" deep breathing and ice baths, all natural.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by esperent on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @11:27PM (#42252942)

> hopefully you know decaf is really just half caff

In the US, to be labelled as decaf more than 99% of caffeine must be removed. The EU wording, iirc, is a bit weird but amounts to essentially the same requirement.

So decaf really is decaf. The only people who might notice some effect are those who never drink any caffeinated drinks at all, and even then I'd say they wouldn't notice much.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by SapporoChris on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @10:31PM (#42252632)

Regarding decaf. "The authors suggest the following standard values for the United States: coffee (5 oz) 85 mg for ground roasted coffee, 60 mg for instant and 3 mg for decaffeinated" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8603790/

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by drgo on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @11:15PM (#42252888)

just get unsmoked yerba and never drink it burning hot to lower the risk of esophageal cancer

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by 8bitsrule on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @01:22AM (#42253478)

More on Lawsonibacter asaccharolyticus here [0]. It's a butyrate (butryic acid) producer.

[0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6013597/

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by Melatonic on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @11:43AM (#42257428)

Normally I'm very skeptical of the pro coffee health studies or effects but if true that's actually great for gut health - Butyrate is one of the essential fatty acids and helps the lining of the GI track repair itself and reduces inflammation

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by dagurp on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @02:06AM (#42253682)

But the title says it has great effect

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by jhugo on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @03:47AM (#42254219)

You have to read all the words. Great effect on the gut biome.

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Re:Coffee drinking habits may greatly impact makeup of gut b... by stubish on Wednesday November 27, 2024 @03:23AM (#42254099)

The interesting bit isn't coffee, but the insight that how foods train our gut biome could be the source of particular effects. Maybe we have been looking for anti-whatever properties in the wrong place.

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