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Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by XorNot on Monday November 25, 2024 @12:00AM (#42233374)
No, it's when an authoritarian government wants something they'll get it. And by get it I mean "they'll take your house, ignore any local environment concerns and possibly just demolish entire villages and generational livelihoods".

Everyone seems to have some "oh how great it is they just get things done" as though they haven't diligently turned up to complain about some development application of the local council.

Yeah, sunshine and rainbows I suppose provided you're thousands of miles away.

Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by Dalewyn on Monday November 25, 2024 @12:17AM (#42233454)
Yes, actually. You repeated my argument only a bit more verbosely.

>Basically, Chinese government wants a bigass factory and they will get a bigass factory because literally fuck you.

Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by MaxPock on Monday November 25, 2024 @03:50AM (#42234423)
From my visits to China, lI've come to conclude that Chinese people have more property rights than Westerners .

I saw roads built around houses because villagers refused to sell.

Eminent domain doesn't seem to exist there

Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by bluGill on Monday November 25, 2024 @11:04AM (#42237357)
Details matter. Chinese have more in some areas, less in others. China also sometimes does things just for a show, so maybe that villager was allowed to now sell so they could off how progressive they were - while they take lots of other property. China also has a corruption problem (as does all countries!), maybe that villager belonged to the CCP and so had extra rights.

Until we get down to details it is hard to say who as more rights. And even when we have to weigh rights, if you don't care about a right does it matter that you don't have it?

Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by deadfoxygrandpa on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @05:01AM (#42244206)
many, many chinese people WANT their property to get eminent domained, because they can get well compensated for it. sometimes it's even above market rates or they'll be given multiple apartments (that they can then rent out) in exchange for giving up property that will be developed. a lot of older housing stock that the owners dont even live in is being held on to and not sold just because these people are hoping they get bought out for a big development project which is better than actually selling the place
Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by bluGill on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @09:40AM (#42246157)
Sure, but OP is talking about the case where someone doesn't want it. This might be a tiny minority or it might be a large number of people - I don't know.
Re:The Size of BYD's Factory by CyberDildonics on Tuesday November 26, 2024 @12:07PM (#42247496)
If they want to give up something they have for the money that's being offered, that's called selling.