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Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by heresie-dabord on Friday November 15, 2024 @04:48PM (#42151546)
What information gain is there in most of the "interactivity" that is afforded by social media?
Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by Uehreka on Friday November 15, 2024 @05:31PM (#42151971)
Credentialing. I frequently find myself reading Tweets from people I’ve never heard of because someone who I know to be an expert in a particular topic has liked or retweeted them. This kind of signaling helps surface more obscure content and make it available to people who wouldn’t have found it on their own. This is a huge deal.
Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by palata on Friday November 15, 2024 @07:05PM (#42152821)
There used to be RSS readers that allowed you to create and share feeds with your friends, actually.
Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by jtbayly on Saturday November 16, 2024 @09:36AM (#42156653)
Now we just need a site where we can browse a bunch of people’s feeds and find interesting ones. Sounds like Twitter.
Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by palata on Sunday November 17, 2024 @01:28PM (#42165873)
Except that RSS is an open standard.
Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by ianburrell on Friday November 15, 2024 @05:12PM (#42151803)
One important one is reposting that shows post to your followers who might not see the original. It is important way to see other content.

Also, liking it signal that other people were interested in the post. I don't global likes are useful for likes from people you follow are important.

Finally, replies mean can see interaction from people you follow. If you follow interesting people, you see interesting discussion.

With social media, it isn't possible to read everything, I know I used to try to read my whole Twitter feed. There needs to be some way to filter than just time when you looked. I think the current algorithmic feed is bad because it tries to show other stuff instead of ordering things that want to see.

Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by palata on Friday November 15, 2024 @07:07PM (#42152828)
But all those features allow for optimization and create competition.

If you want likes, or views, or reposts, then you will have to "engineer" your post in such a way that it gets more attention. Not sure if that's always beneficial.

Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by ianburrell on Friday November 15, 2024 @07:57PM (#42153183)
There is not much point in attention when post is only seen by followers and reposts. It is indication that wrote a good post. The only currency is followers. It was hard to get those without outside fame.

The problem is with Twitter and others is that they now have algorithmic feed. That means posts get seen globally and clout metrics are valuable for reach. Comments also get clout so get lots of drive-by ones and less discussion.

Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by ks2048 on Friday November 15, 2024 @06:01PM (#42152263)
"social" means people interacting - replies, likes, etc.

If someone has an RSS reader with feeds from some news sources, official channels issuing announcements, etc - that's great, but does anyone consider that "social media"?

(Of course, you can believe that social media is bad and you don't want it, but that's a different question)

Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by frio on Friday November 15, 2024 @05:04PM (#42151713)
For things like a missing person alert, it provides an instant feedback mechanism and the ability to share things with people you might know in the affected area.

Otherwise, there’s absolutely utility to interacting over social media. We’re doing it right now!

Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by multjoy on Friday November 15, 2024 @04:53PM (#42151595)
People seem to like it?
Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by flir on Friday November 15, 2024 @05:08PM (#42151764)
Why is information gain the correct metric?

We're talking about marketing here. Shouldn't it be conversions or awareness or something?

Re:Maybe Bluesky Has "Won" by cuteboy19 on Friday November 15, 2024 @06:24PM (#42152456)
filter out unimportant stuff