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Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by yccs27 on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @05:34AM (#42124828)
That's all phones ever, not current/popular models. When you restrict it to the last 10 years, you get about 12%, and of the 70 most popular models almost a quarter are equipped with a barometer.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by antonkochubey on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @06:13AM (#42125008)
Huh? I restricted it to 2023-now, and got 146 results. 80 for 2024 only.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by jrvieira on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @06:37AM (#42125160)
146 in how many? 80 in how many?
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by nielsole on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @06:53AM (#42125255)
80/557

146/1109

Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by jrvieira on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @07:04AM (#42125313)
that's above 12% on both.

now correct it for number of sold phones each (estimated by looking at the 70 most popular models) and we'll get why they said 1/4.

Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by lolinder on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @09:40AM (#42126448)
For an app as popular as Transit this is a purely academic exercise—25% of the most popular models is way too low to be worth building their detection around, even if they could assume that all of their customers use the most popular models (which they obviously can't).
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by stavros on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @10:20AM (#42126777)
25% of popular models doesn't mean 25% of phones currently in circulation. If the iPhone has a barometer (which it does), that's already a huge share of phones out there.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by hluska on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @11:02AM (#42127204)
The conversation was about Android.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by azinman2 on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @11:36AM (#42127548)
But the point stands, it’s about the distribution of phones not how many models support it.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by lolinder on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @01:27PM (#42128603)
I'm in favor of Transit trying to reach more than 25% of the most popular phone models even if doing so would get them 75% of the population.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by michaelmior on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @11:07AM (#42127245)
It may be too low, but I'd imagine the app could also look for other Transit users nearby and as long as one of them has the appropriate sensor, this might be sufficient. Probably still not something you want to rely on since it would be pretty annoying to have a feature not work when you're alone on a train.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by cbhl on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @12:36PM (#42128155)
> the app could also look for other Transit users nearby

That seems unlikely in an environment with no cellular / wifi signal. Theoretically possible, but expensive for battery and probably disallowed by the OS.

Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by thruway516 on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @12:39PM (#42128187)
Does the current version of their app run on 25% of the most popular models? This update runs a classifier on your phone. I imagine that would be no less restrictive than the barometer requirement.
Re:No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains by lolinder on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @01:28PM (#42128607)
Most classifiers are nowhere near as heavy as the LLMs that are trending right now. The article doesn't specify, but I would be surprised if the resource requirements are especially onerous.