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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:30AM (#42061981)
The data may show that. The people don't feel that. (Many of them don't see it in their budgets, either.)
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:01AM (#42062402)
Voting for the guy that complained American wages were too high and thinks tariffs are paid by other countries will definitely not help.

Please be more specific if you are explaining why American voters have got angry and done something stupid that will make things worse or if you are defending that stupidity as a good thing that will help the situation you are talking about.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by toomuchtodo on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:44AM (#42063037)
Like Brexit, you have to let the electorate find out the hard way.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by schnebbau on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:46AM (#42063069)
My theory is that social media has given people this skewed perspective of reality where everyone else appears to be rich and living in luxury.

This makes their own lives, in which they are still better off than 99.9% of the history of humanity, feel worse.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by nsxwolf on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:40AM (#42063968)
When your lifestyle suddenly has to change in drastic ways because of a rapid increase in prices none of this makes anyone feel any better. "Think about how much worse it COULD be, kids!"
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by gruez on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:11AM (#42064457)
>When your lifestyle suddenly has to change in drastic ways because of a rapid increase in prices

Where's the evidence this is happening for a majority (or even something vaguely resembling one) of people? I've already posted official statistics that show inflation adjusted median wages are up.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by nsxwolf on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:25AM (#42064678)
Ok, well, my wages aren't up, and everybody I know's wages aren't up either. Being told this over and over again, that everything is great, despite what's obvious to our own personal experience is why you got the result you got today.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by no_wizard on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:23AM (#42063703)
or you know, wages stagnated for 40 years and haven't kept pace with productivity gains, and it was inevitable that this would wear most American citizens down and we'd feel it more and more over time.

The most recent wage gains failed to make up for this fact

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/19/heres-how-labor-dynamism-aff...

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by no_wizard on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:43AM (#42062164)
But it’s a skewed picture of the actuality, which that those wage gains didn’t make up for the 40 years of stagnation preceding it.

If wage gains kept pace with productivity gains it’d be a very different and vastly better economic story for the average American

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by gruez on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:13AM (#42064486)
>which that those wage gains didn’t make up for the 40 years of stagnation preceding it.

It stagnated in 2008-2016 but they still voted for obama, but when it finally started rising in 2016 they voted for trump?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by no_wizard on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @02:47PM (#42068224)
It wasn't really rising in 2016. The flat wage growth lasted past 2020, with a relatively recent blip, but it has not meaningfully risen to outpace the stagnation that existed for decades.

If wages increased with productivity increases we'd be in better shape overall as a society, but here we are.

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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by InDubioProRubio on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:58AM (#42062360)
Reality is always a social construct, and by having air superiority you can talk anything into reality.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by croes on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:39AM (#42062112)
You don’t feel earth rotation either but it still exists.

You can’t argue about feelings

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by psychoslave on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:24AM (#42062721)
People definitely can feel the impact of earth rotation on a daily basis. They literally would not even have the notion of a day without it actually.

https://sciencenotes.org/what-would-happen-if-the-earth-stop...

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by croes on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:31AM (#42062829)
You can measure the effects but people don’t feel it, just ask flat earthers