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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by arandomusername on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:48AM (#42061449)
True they are pro-israel, but so is most of the dems. It's the one topic that actually gets bipartisan support.

repubs aren't pro russia. they are just anti-getting-involved in there.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by BolexNOLA on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:02AM (#42061621)
>repubs aren’t pro russia

They sure are for the right price.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by pvaldes on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:32PM (#42066989)
> repubs aren’t pro russia

This only matter if we think that the Republican party still exists, and was not silently replaced by other party carrying its blood stained skin. Is GOP still alive? Is a serious question.

I have a lot of doubts about the real independence of republicans in this situation. The man at charge is obviously pro Russia and the republicans can't do a s*t about this. They will be replaced one by one. Anything that would try will be pushed out of the road.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by BolexNOLA on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @06:42PM (#42071355)
GQP/MAGA is the party now. Old GOP was definitely swiftly executed.

I heard Mitch McConnell called a RINO a few weeks ago. That says it all.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by pvaldes on Thursday November 07, 2024 @03:50AM (#42074891)
Is an interesting case in fact. In my opinion USA democracy is clearly into a transitional phase to became a monarchy. I would not bet money against Donald I becaming the first King of America. All ingredients are yet over the table.

1) Cult to the leader, Image printed on coins, posters, everywhere on TV and media. Fanatism

2) Religion serves the King. Divine intervention to justify power take. "God choose me in a divine mission to fix this mess" is a central part of the speech in every new monarch crowning. Trump is yet talking about that.

3) Exceptionalism and isolationalism, we are the best country and is cold and rainy out of my frontiers. Frontiers are very important for Kings as symbolic element of protection.

4) Extravagant behavior. Trump did all sort of outrageous things that would put anybody else in the jail, but got unscathed all the time. All kings do this. This is made to reinforce the idea of a special "superhuman" status.

4) Laws. This special status imply also that the law does not apply to the King and people will be carefully taught about that.

5) Killing competitors to the crown ("Hang Mike Pence" was metaphorical, but also works in a symbolic plane).

6) Wicht hunt behavior. As the King can't do wrong, scapegoats are required, normally on minorities.

7) Useful idiots. Extensive use of expendable pawns that are promised to enter the court, became famous, gain influence etc if they do a favor for the King. Those promises will never deliver.

8) Sucession. I would bet that the next elections will not have Trump as a frontman but a son of Trump will be the sure and only candidate. Every step will be taken to assure that not other has an opportunity inside the party. There will be a strong temptation and a lot of space to cheat in elections also.

9) And a component that is not still here, but I expect to see in the future is to disarm people that could pose a treat, weapon control but only for a part of the population. All Kings do this.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:49AM (#42062248)
As de-facto world police, inaction on the US' part is compliance.

Of course, it took what, 70, 80 years of US influence to weaken the European armies to the point where we're highly reliant on them for defense, deterrence, tech and material. The Crimea invasion should've been the catalyst for the massively increased spending and prioritization of the military in Europe, not the 2022 escalation. I hope for Ukraine's sake that Europe has been able to catch up and restart production of equipment and that they can supply it asap, because after Ukraine it'll be Moldavia and Georgia, which already have pro-russian separatist movements / areas. Poland has invested a ton in updating their military at least.

I hope the US doesn't have veto powers to stop article 5 from being enacted if it does come to that.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by CapricornNoble on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:25AM (#42062742)
> I hope for Ukraine's sake that Europe has been able to catch up and restart production of equipment and that they can supply it asap,

They can't and they won't.

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-weapons-shells-european-unio...

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-ukraine-military-aid-2026/a-69...

Sending more munitions to Ukraine means it takes the Russian military longer to overcome the Ukrainian army by force of arms. The unstated aspect that is often glossed over is that this requires more and more Ukrainian men to be forced against their will to die for the territorial integrity of the country (because in 2024 the Ukrainian military is fueled overwhelming by conscription, not by volunteers). It's bizarre to me that is considered a "pro-Ukrainian" take. It's like egging on Paraguay during the War of the Triple Alliance to keep fighting, no matter if ~70% of your male population dies in the process. Just don't surrender!

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by wholinator2 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:27PM (#42069702)
It's pro-ukrainian in relation to the alternative, which appears to be the eventual complete dissolution of Ukrainian sovereignty?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by CapricornNoble on Thursday November 07, 2024 @03:09AM (#42074631)
If Ukrainian sovereignty mattered...Ukrainian men would still be volunteering to protect it. They aren't. They have 60,000 formal criminal cases against deserters alone. Western news media is reporting that 50-70%% of conscripts get killed/wounded before their first rotation....and of the survivors half of them abandon their posts after being on the receiving end of Russian artillery. The press gangs have to raid concerts and nightclubs and drag out the patrons to keep the front line supplied with fresh meat. Dudes aren't patriotically defending Ukrainian sovereignty anymore because they know staring down Russian artillery and air strikes indefinitely is a death sentence.

Americans and Western Europeans cheer for Ukrainian sovereignty, but seem disinterested in Ukrainian lives. I think the bulk of Ukrainian men would rather trade the Blue&Yellow for the Russian tri-color, and keep their balls/legs/arms attached.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39622

https://www.ft.com/content/b9396112-585a-4f7e-9628-13d500c99...

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cynicalpeace on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:20AM (#42063659)
This sounds like "Silence is violence" garbage that is used to bully anyone who's not an activist. In this case, actively pro war.

No. We don't want to be world police. We want to make money and grow our families.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by PoignardAzur on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:55AM (#42065200)
It's a little more than silence. The US is actively selling weapons to Israel, actively sanctioning Israel's biggest enemy/rival Iran (not specifically to help Israel, but still), pressuring other Israel enemies to normalize relations with them, using their Security Council veto to block any UN resolution against Israel, etc.

Israel's diplomatic position would be much weaker if they didn't believe that the US would keep supporting them no matter what they do.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by dotancohen on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:53PM (#42069194)
> Israel's diplomatic position would be much weaker if they didn't believe that the US would keep supporting them no matter what they do.

Why do you feel that Israel's diplomatic position needs to be weaker?

And how would the Palestinians' diplomatic position be, without the support of Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Turkey, Lebanon, Libya, Tunis, and the USSR and now Russia?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cynicalpeace on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:58PM (#42069282)
My comment was in reference to Ukraine/Russia. I don't think we should be involved with Israel/Palestine either
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by arandomusername on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:23PM (#42066813)
trying to be de-facto world police has caused many issues for US. (Current) repubs wants to stop getting involved in other conflicts (except supporting Israel)
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by xnx on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:50PM (#42069150)
No small portion of US economic dominance is spending more on the military than he China, Russia, India, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, South Korea, Japan, and Ukraine combined. Sending money to Ukraine wasn't out of the goodness of US hearts, it was to fight a low grade proxy war with Russia. Every dollar the US spends in the Ukraine destroys many times the amount of Russian equipment and spills no US blood. I am not endorsing these actions.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by MaxHoppersGhost on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @10:00AM (#42063345)
> It's the one topic that actually gets bipartisan support.

Gee I wonder why. Every single US senator takes AIPAC lobby money.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by inemesitaffia on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @11:06AM (#42064391)
And they pay well and on time
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by arandomusername on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @01:28PM (#42066908)
If only there was a president that wanted pro Israel lobby groups register under Foreign Agents Registration Act, wonder what would have happened.