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Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by raxxorraxor on Monday November 04, 2024 @08:56AM (#42041544)
Many don't remember SCO/TSG and their being as patent troll. An example of a non-constructive company that relies on possible legal loopholes.

He probably could have contributed something positive but decided against it.

Oracle now owns the remainder of it and espouses similar behavior. Perhaps its future is similar as well.

They had a product palette with "open" in their product lineup:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO_Group

Strangely reminds me of open AI...

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by no_wizard on Monday November 04, 2024 @09:26AM (#42041783)
Every time someone says Oracle will meet a fate worthy of their actions it never seems to materialize. Somehow they manage to produce strong revenue in todays environment and I really thought recession fear induced cost cutting would hurt them
Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by kreims on Monday November 04, 2024 @09:36AM (#42041877)
Never bet against a CIA spinoff.
Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by lupusreal on Monday November 04, 2024 @09:35AM (#42041864)
Lawn mowers are good at what they do, even if the results are gory.
Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by BSDobelix on Monday November 04, 2024 @09:07AM (#42041636)
>Oracle now owns the remainder of it and espouses similar behavior. Perhaps its future is similar as well.

I think you talk about Sun Microsystems no?

SCO still sells OpenServer5/6 and Unixware7

BTW: Open in that time meant "open" to industry standards like TCP/IP same with openVMS

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by dagw on Monday November 04, 2024 @10:08AM (#42042202)
SCO still sells OpenServer5/6 and Unixware7

SCO is gone. A company called Xinous bought OpenServer and UnixWare at the bankruptcy sale and are the ones now selling it.

Although looking it their website it is clear that nothing in the software has been updated in years. They 'brag' about their latest features like Java 1.4, USB 2.0 Support for printers and IDE ATA-6 hard dive support (now supporting drives >128GB!). Also it seem like it's been a while since they looked over their licensing. Their 'small business' license is for computers with up to 1GB of RAM and their 'enterprise' server license supports servers with up to 32 logical cores and up to a mind boggling 16 GB of RAM.

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by BSDobelix on Monday November 04, 2024 @10:49AM (#42042636)
I get updates on my OpenServer6 via patchck.

But SCO/Xinuos never belonged to Oracle, if anything "supported" by Microsoft.

Since you are so pedantic about the name "SCO" it's:

>>Support four to 32 processors

>>With 64 GB of memory, you can support your applications and hardware (upto 32GB general purpose memory and above 32GB to be used for dynamically shared memory).

>>Large file support. Get one terabyte of data to run your applications.

>>Native SATA. Support Intel’s open Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI) with native command queuing and hot plug support.

https://www.xinuos.com/wp-content/uploads/Xinuos-Data-Sheet-...

Where do you have your information's from?? Is the Internet Archive running again?

Also MP1 from September 18, 2024:

https://www.xinuos.com/kvm-support-update-pack-1-and-mainten...

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by dagw on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:02AM (#42042778)
Where do you have your information's from??

I was apparently reading off the latest UnixWare marketing material.

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by BSDobelix on Monday November 04, 2024 @11:06AM (#42042839)
>I was apparently reading off the latest UnixWare marketing material.

https://www.xinuos.com/wp-content/uploads/Xinuos-Data-Sheet-...

>>Increased memory support. With 64 GB of memory, you can support powerful applications and hardware (upto 32GB general purpose memory and above 32GB to be used for dynamically shared memory)

>>Utilize graphics, network, and HBA drivers, including Intel, LSI Logic and Qlogic HBA drivers

So we have a bigger problem here then reading?

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by kjellsbells on Monday November 04, 2024 @08:26PM (#42047810)
It's uncharitable to respond so aggressively to the poster esp in the absence of evidence of bad faith.

Just compare the UnixWare 7 data sheet to the release notes, both rooted at: https://www.xinuos.com/products/unixware-7/documentation/

Data sheet: "Java support. Application developers can take advantage of the features in Java and users will have more applications available."

Release note (dated Dec 2017, but the only one linked from above): in the packages section: "Java 2 SE 5.0 Software Development Kit" "(1.5.0.17)"

(A reasonable reader would infer that the latest version of Java that Xinuos supplied was (1.5 aka) 5. Which would be pretty old even if you assume that they could not move to version twenty-something for license reasons.)

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by ruthmarx on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @02:54AM (#42049505)
The user you are responding to seems to make a habit of being aggressive, especially in cases where he has been factually wrong but is unwilling to even consider the possibility.
Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by BSDobelix on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @04:23AM (#42049973)
But ruth i am factually correct here, or do you have problems reading too? Do i have a new stalker with you now?
Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by ruthmarx on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @04:55AM (#42050140)
> But ruth i am factually correct here, or do you have problems reading too?

Why do you think being factually correct is an excuse for your behavior?

It doesn't matter. Maybe you are, maybe you're not, but I've seen you in several discussions being flat out factually wrong and not listening to anyone who knows better gently trying to correct you, instead being outright aggressive to them and insulting them.

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by BSDobelix on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @05:21AM (#42050270)
>but I've seen you in several discussions being flat out factually wrong

I would say you are the person that is often factually wrong, like your sandbox irritation ;)

>not listening to anyone who knows better gently trying to correct you, instead being outright aggressive to them and insulting them.

Gaslighting 101

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by ruthmarx on Tuesday November 05, 2024 @05:41AM (#42050376)
> I would say you are the person that is often factually wrong, like your sandbox irritation ;)

lol, and what is it you think I'm factually wrong about in that friend? Can you even understand the discussion?

Most interactions I've had with you have had you being obstinate to learning or considering you could be wrong, like denying user mode drivers are a thing [1]

> Gaslighting 101

Pointing out aggressive behavior for what it is is not gaslighting. Grow up.

[1] https://doc.redox-os.org/book/drivers.html

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by kjellsbells on Monday November 04, 2024 @08:30PM (#42047840)
The scariest thing for me is how a really good company with a really good product can, through the intervention of boardroom lunatics, be converted to a trolling organization that tarnishes everything it touches. SCO OpenServer and UnixWare ran thousands of point of sale and restaurants and other types of set it and forget it use cases. They had good product well supported by a channel of VARs - people making a good living at it. To toss all that away was a disaster.

And now, SCO tech lives on in a gray limbo netherworld, like OS/2 with Arca Noae: in one case because of trolling and the other because of the tides of history. Such a sad end.

Re:Once Linux's Biggest Enemy: Darl McBride Dies and Nobody ... by bigfatkitten on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @08:13PM (#42072169)
Two different companies.

The Santa Cruz Operation Inc (the original SCO) sold its UNIX assets to Caldera around 2001, and pivoted to VDI (the product now called Oracle Secure Global Desktop). It renamed itself to Tarantella before being acquired by Sun, and in turn Oracle.

Caldera subsequently renamed itself to The SCO Group, and then commenced the shakedown that made McBride infamous.