This is what the vast majority of discourse on these topics has been dominated by on every platform, not just HN. I wonder if there's a shorter term for this, none of 4chan /g/'s crass terms cover this kind of depiction.

Competition-enabled rationalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve

Apple gobbling up supply chains and production capacity is not something a hardware startup should be happy with.

Also, startup engineers don't necessarily like "alien technology", which is what Apple is becoming by developing everything behind closed doors and with little cooperation.

Startups don't like to pay 10-30% of their revenue just for running their software on a device someone has already paid for.

There are more reasons to dislike Apple than you can find on Slashdot.

You start with a very good and fair point.

> Also, startup engineers don't necessarily like "alien technology", which is what Apple is becoming by developing everything behind closed doors and with little cooperation. > Startups don't like to pay 10-30% of their revenue just for running their software on a device someone has already paid for.

You ended with one that is pretty much at odds with my experience. Startups value distribution channels, and the App Store has been fantastic for this.

Furthermore, it's one thing to dislike Apple. It's another thing for people to veer off into conspiracy theory, which is what half the threads on here have started to do.