I believe Apple has some fantastic shows. Severance, Tehran, Silo, Slow Horses, Liason, Physical, For All Mankind (season 1).

I agree that Severance was good, but it came out in 2022, and the next season isn't coming out until 2025. Shrinking is another I like, but it came out in early 2023 and just started season 2 this month. I wanted to like Silo, having read the books, but something from the trailer just makes it seem off. I'll probably get around to watching it eventually assuming I don't cancel soon. The others don't appeal to me.

I think if you're ok watching the content weekly and only watch an hour or two, if feels like there is content there, but if you binge like most people who stream do, there is hardly anything there. Most people would probably be better off to subscribe for a month or two a year and cancel the rest of the time.

If you haven't already, check out Dark Matter, too!

I will. Thanks.

> "...but part of the issue is that their shows just aren't that good..."

Hard disagree from a personal view. Also statistically, I don't think you can strongly claim this since many of their shows have lots of awards if you go off that metric. I haven't done the calculations but I would guess that their content to award ratio is even higher than many other networks.

>I haven't done the calculations but I would guess that their content to award ratio is even higher than many other networks.

That is probably true, but only because they have so little content overall. It is nice that it's not choke full of low budget reality nonsense and foreign stuff, but they also have basically none of the back catalog of content that other services have.

If you think Ted Lasso is a bad show, there is something broken in you and we can’t be friends.

that's not fair, even though i know you're kidding. personally i'm tired of jason sudeikis.

There's a popular if snarky narrative that Ted Lasso started out as a straightforward comedy and then became too enraptured with character trauma-drama schmaltz. When The Bear got more focused on each character's struggles in season 2, people mocked it by likening it to Ted Lasso.

>When The Bear got more focused on each character's struggles in season 2

Honestly, that seems to be part of the playbook for almost every show now. I wonder if people just didn't notice it much until the Bear or Ted Lasso, or maybe just because it's more of an abrupt departure from the main story line in those shows instead of just being a b-plot part of a normal episode.

The Morning Show, Severance, Silo, Tehran, Presumed Innocent, Ted Lasso, Slow Horses, Disclaimer, Shrinking, Loot, Severance, Where's Wanda?, Foundation, Cowboy Cartel (short documentary), Midnight Family, The Last Thing He Told Me, Invasion, Mythic Quest, Bad Monkey, Dickinson...

There's so many good shows on Apple TV.

So you've had about 5 years to watch 20 good shows. I've seen a bunch of these long ago. After that, what's left?

> [...] their shows just aren't that good.

Really hard to agree with this. The shows I've enjoyed most recently are primarily on Apple. Slow Horses, Ted Lasso, Severance, Silo, Dark Matter, Foundation. And, unlike Netflix, Apple seems willing to bring back well regarded shows for a second season, instead of canceling for something new.

Severance is excellent, for all mankind was decent. Other ones I've watched were quitte bad indeed.

I agree that Severance was good. I suppose they'll come out with a new season right about the time I think about canceling again. I have also been watching Shrinking, but it's not really enough to keep me on the platform. Apple's content seems to be getting well known actors and then putting them into random shows and hoping that people will find out about them via word of mouth or something. There is also basically no back catalog worth watching like there is with other streaming services.

Tiny world is amazing

Apple is currently my favorite for content, so to each their own I guess.

What content? They have almost none. Granted with the segmentation in the streaming market, none of the big players have much going on, but at least you can usually find something to watch on the others. Once you catch up with the 2 or 3 interesting ones on Apple Tv, there is basically nothing to watch.

This includes movies, but browsing their "originals" list, so far I (or my wife) have enjoyed (in no particular order):

  Slow Horses
  Lessons in Chemistry
  Severance
  Ted Lasso
  Shrinking
  Mythic Quest
  Roar
  CODA
  The Problem with John Stewart

And we are looking forward to checking out, in no particular order:

  Palm Royale
  For All Mankind
  Criminal Record
  Killers of the Flower Moon
  Foundation
  Strange Planet
  The Morning Show
  Greyhound

They're not all knockout hits. Overall we just feel safer trying something new there. If we don't like it, it's usually just because it's not for us, and less because it feels like an algorithmic, soulless cash grab.

They have much less content, but if you value quality over quantity, I don't think that's an issue.

When I look at the Apple TV+ catalog, I can see myself giving an honest shake to _most_ of their content. I simply can't say the same for other services. I understand why they are flooding the zone if they have the resources, but there's a finite amount of content one human can watch.

If Apple releases 50 shows and 80% are up my alley, I get the same amount of enjoyable content as Netflix releasing 400 shows but only 10% are worth my time.

I think my issue is that it's not 80% up my alley. I see a bunch of decent looking shows that are probably good for their audience, I'm just not their audience. But even for stuff where I'm their audience, they often feel to be lacking something.

Ted Lasso ended almost 18 months ago. Definitely cancel. We should not be gifting anything to these giants.

>Ted Lasso ended almost 18 months ago. Definitely cancel. We should not be gifting anything to these giants.

That's a good point. Plus it's not like I can't resubscribe later and catch up on everything again.

It's subjective. Most of my friends and colleagues stopped using Netflix as soon as sharing accounts were messed with. It was just not worth it. While Apple has a lot of great or at least decent sci-fi (or close) shows from past few years.

I don't use Apple equipment at all, it's unpopular here, but Apple TV subscription was the only thing from them I really though may be worth it.

Also shows on each platform are largely different depending on country, to the point where it's a pathetic fraction of what US has. It puts Apple TV in a bit better light.

Their content generally fits the mix of other streamers. "Not good" is the most subjective of statements when it comes to film and television.