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Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Freak_NL on Thursday October 17, 2024 @01:34PM (#41871749)
Elephants are fine animals, but the Unicode standard features a distinct and disturbing lack of guinea pigs — as well as capybaras — severely limiting the range of my digital expression.

(I mean, if we can have 'taco'…)

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by notatoad on Thursday October 17, 2024 @02:56PM (#41872661)
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=elephant...

capybara and guinea pig are both far less popular than taco or emoji

interestingly, the spike of taco in google trends seems like it might be correlated to it's addition to emoji - that spike would be about a year after iOS got the Taco emoji.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by TheAceOfHearts on Thursday October 17, 2024 @03:20PM (#41872865)
Capybaras are a rising trend in the last few years. There's a ton of fan pages with cute capybaras pictures and videos. You need to invest early.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by squidgedcricket on Thursday October 17, 2024 @11:02PM (#41876008)
Capybaras don't have shit on hyraxes. I'm trying to be an early adopter, but like all hot new products that seem to be out of stock everywhere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyrax

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by rsynnott on Friday October 18, 2024 @07:35AM (#41878406)
They're disadvantaged in the cute-animal stakes by their name, I think. The name implies something large, dangerous, and possibly mythical; it really doesn't fit with "round fuzzy thing somewhat smaller than a cat".
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by itishappy on Friday October 18, 2024 @09:27AM (#41879261)
Solid market analysis. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by bombcar on Friday October 18, 2024 @06:21AM (#41877952)
Capybara are being artificially held down because there isn’t a confident and convenient emoji for them!

I suppose you could start a popular open source project and name it the word you want to become an emoji.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by IncreasePosts on Thursday October 17, 2024 @03:48PM (#41873096)
Without any relative scale, can you even tell the difference between a capybara and a guinea pig?
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Freak_NL on Thursday October 17, 2024 @04:18PM (#41873334)
Certainly. Capybaras are semi-aquatic mammals, and their head as a consequence is positioned significantly higher than their bodies, resulting in a general pose which can only be described as 'regally aloof'.

Cavies on the other hand look like adorable furry idiots with a much less angular — in fact, rotund — outline.

Aside from both being rodents and (apparently) delicious, these are quite different animals.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by latexr on Friday October 18, 2024 @06:15AM (#41877915)
The head shape is also quite different, as are the ears and eyes. I’m struggling to understand how someone could mix them up.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by IncreasePosts on Friday October 18, 2024 @01:23PM (#41881535)
My implication was "at the resolution of an emoji" - you can clearly tell the difference in real life, but what about when you only have 18x18 pixels to work with?
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Freak_NL on Friday October 18, 2024 @03:07PM (#41882472)
If you can't tell the difference between a capybara and a guinea pig, you won't be able to tell the difference between a cat and a dog either. The former pair differs more in terms of their silhouette than the latter. 18×18 probably means you won't be able to tell quite a lot of emoji apart, but don't blame these rodents for that.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by pxc on Saturday October 19, 2024 @09:16AM (#41887589)
They also feel extremely different to the touch. Capybaras have really rough coats! They're not soft at all.

You could tell a guinea-pig-sized capybara apart from a guinea pig, or a capybara-sized guinea pig apart from a capybara, blindfolded. Probably anyone who expects guinea pigs to be soft but has never met a capybara would get it right on the first try.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by bombcar on Friday October 18, 2024 @06:23AM (#41877964)
This annoys me so much - squirrel on iPhone offers you an emoji that is clearly a chipmunk.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Freak_NL on Friday October 18, 2024 @07:46AM (#41878479)
Chipmunks are squirrels though. 'Squirrel' is the family name for a bunch of these rodents.

> Any of the rodents of the family Sciuridae distinguished by their large bushy tail.

(https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squirrel)

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by bombcar on Friday October 18, 2024 @09:09AM (#41879101)
I don't care who they send, prairie dogs and squirrels are different and deserve different emojis!
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by ygra on Friday October 18, 2024 @09:48AM (#41879456)
Maybe after Han unification we also need a squirrel unification and leave this distinction to the font which is picked based on the region you're in ...

That being said, I already cannot parse many emoji and would love tooltips what they are supposed to represent in all places.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by bombcar on Friday October 18, 2024 @10:18AM (#41879722)
Yep, that's how I learned you can directly google an emoji and find the emojipedia page for it.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by yencabulator on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @11:12AM (#41925858)
Chipmunks don't have a a large bushy tail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipmunk

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by AceJohnny2 on Thursday October 17, 2024 @02:41PM (#41872482)
you should start a petition!

(/s because from TFA "Petitions are not considered as evidence since they are too easily skewed")

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Dalewyn on Thursday October 17, 2024 @02:49PM (#41872583)
Boat owner: "We have a new boat and we need a name, let's have the internet vote! It can be the people's boat!"

Internet: "Boaty McBoatface."

Boat owner: "Democracy is a mistake."

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by akira2501 on Thursday October 17, 2024 @03:18PM (#41872846)
"Democracy is fine. You tried to cheap out on marketing and you got what you paid for."
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by netsharc on Friday October 18, 2024 @04:48AM (#41877504)
Reminds me of the Priiiiillll debacle: https://heideblog.com/2011/05/12/eine-abstimmung-fur-raserei... (the title is in German and is unconnected)

TL; DR: washing-up-detergent maker Pril does online competition and promised to put the winning design on shelves, the design that got most votes: https://heideblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/screen-shot...

Somewhere online there's a pic of these things on the shelves/they did make them as collectibles.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by bombcar on Friday October 18, 2024 @06:23AM (#41877961)
I’d buy it. I love stuff like that.

Boaty McBoatface is the most famous boat behind the Titanic, so it definitely worked.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Retric on Friday October 18, 2024 @09:02AM (#41879050)
If I saw that Peil design on store shelves I’d likely buy it, so it likely worked quite well as a limited edition. Really click the line and ask yourself if you’d do the same. https://heideblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/screen-shot...

The inherent issue with these campaigns is the select for initial response not how long you’re going to like some design.

Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by Dalewyn on Friday October 18, 2024 @06:09PM (#41883949)
That is awesome.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by dustyventure on Thursday October 17, 2024 @04:31PM (#41873462)
If marketers found that any vote spontaneously creates the invested interest a democratic process needs then we all would have starved during the subsequent storm of pointless elections.
Re:Unicode uses elephants as baseline comparison of cultural... by tmnstr85 on Thursday October 17, 2024 @01:53PM (#41871916)
2nd