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Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by a_t48 on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @12:17AM (#41844899)
Cheating with only your friends - yeah, mostly. Cheating with randos sounds like it would lead to boring gameplay.
Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by wcfields on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @12:34AM (#41844972)
Like, you can cheat at Solitaire, but why?
Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by shermantanktop on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @12:45AM (#41845026)
Hey, dopamine is dopamine. This ain’t stolen valor or a plagiarized thesis.
Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by smolder on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @05:43AM (#41846788)
I think it's a special kind of person that gets a kick from "winning" at something that's not a challenge. You might as well write "winner" on a t-shirt in marker and wear it.
Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by lazide on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @11:18AM (#41849510)
Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by bee_rider on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @01:37PM (#41850980)
I don’t really know that it is cheating to get a “win” label. Maybe it is just a distraction or fun flashing lights.

Do you remember being a child and just playing with action figures? It was harmless and fun. I wonder where we lose that ability to just chill and have fun without a challenge.

Actually, a lot of people seem to just spend a lot of time watching TV, which is also fun without challenge.

Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by smolder on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @08:50PM (#41854611)
The comparison to TV watching or playing pretend is apt, though I don't see how cheating at multiplayer games is an improvement over those. If you cheat in something like helldivers 2 (what my comment is meant to address) that can also spoil other peoples' experience who actually want a challenge. Besides, nowadays you have the option of just watching someone else play a game to completion on twitch or youtube, which is quite popular.
Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by shermantanktop on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @06:57PM (#41853969)
Solitaire is a game, and many people see games in terms of gaining or losing either social status or self-image. But for single-player games:

- maybe "winning" is a special case of "completing"

- "playing a game" in a competitive sense is totally different than "playing" in an undirected sense; e.g. playing with Legos or playing with a cat. Or playing with matches for that matter.

- for me, i'd much rather write "winner" on a t-shirt and wear it than prance around in a t-shirt that I legit competed for and won, and I need the world to know that about me. What kind of fragile ego does that? I'm more likely to see that as a "special kind of person."

Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by smolder on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @08:48PM (#41854594)
> But for single-player games

We were talking about people cheating at multiplayer co-op in this thread. I don't think people use rule-breaking cheats in multiplayer games (competitive or otherwise) purely for the story in the game, or they could go watch a TV show/movie or read a book instead and get a better story. (Or watch someone else play it!)

> for me, i'd much rather write "winner" on a t-shirt and wear it than prance around in a t-shirt that I legit competed for and won, and I need the world to know that about me. What kind of fragile ego does that? I'm more likely to see that as a "special kind of person."

These aren't the only two options. You can also just challenge yourself for the satisfaction of overcoming challenges and not wear a t-shirt. I think when people cheat at something where the outcome is broadcast there is almost always an element of status seeking.

Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by shermantanktop on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @08:26AM (#41858286)
I was responding to

> Like, you can cheat at Solitaire, but why?

Re:Cheating alleged after men's world conker champion found ... by smolder on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @01:07PM (#41861364)
Yeah, that's fair and what you said is reasonable. I was changing the context back to multiplayer to make my point about that.