Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by DiscourseFan on Saturday October 12, 2024 @12:40PM
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I agree. But I don’t think psychedelics are the end all be all, that’s all
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by Levitating on Saturday October 12, 2024 @01:25PM
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SSRIs barely work. For mild to moderate depression a placebo works similarly or better. Only for severe cases of depression are SSRIs found to be helpful because they surpress all emotion.
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by dymax78 on Saturday October 12, 2024 @02:22PM
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~50% response rate for people with major depressive disorder isn't "barely working" -- for millions of people, SSRIs significantly improve their quality of life. Unfortunately, there is no "one size fits all" solution and often those of us with MDD have to try different medications, in conjunction with a (good) therapist before we find what works best.
Personally, I've run the gamut on SSRIs and they never suppressed all emotion.
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by drakonka on Saturday October 12, 2024 @02:11PM
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Maybe the effect is different when prescribed for something other than depression, but I did not find my SSRI to suppress my emotions. It simply helps me curb rumination and negative thought spirals. Helps to feel "lighter" and simultaneously more grounded. If anything, that allows me to feel _more_ positive emotion rather than suppressing it.
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by hn_version_0023 on Saturday October 12, 2024 @03:02PM
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Cool, glad you had a positive experience. My experience was the opposite: emotionally numb to the point where awfully bad things happened in my presence and I barely shrugged.
Being unable to feel joy or pain, being unable to cry when a loved on passed on; these were the hallmarks of my time on SSRIs. Never again will I subject myself to these drugs.
It took me twice as long to get off them as I was on them. Two years of prescribed meds, 4 years to get off them. Six years of my life spent as a literal zombie person.
We don’t know why they work or don’t. Our experiences are just anecdata.
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by worik on Saturday October 12, 2024 @03:53PM
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> Our experiences are just anecdata.
Just?
Anecdotes matter
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by grandpoobah on Saturday October 12, 2024 @01:58PM
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Worked great for me. Placebo might have worked too, but doctors don't prescribe those!
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by zdragnar on Saturday October 12, 2024 @03:44PM
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This is blatantly false. I've been on a few. Some didn't help, some made me worse. The one I'm on now is extremely helpful, and saved me.
None of them had any suppressant effects on my emotions at all.
Re:Psilocybin Bests SSRI for Major Depression in First Long-...
by Levitating on Sunday October 13, 2024 @01:21PM
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I was specifically thinking of this paper:
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
As well as the experience of many people close to me that used SSRIs.
FYI, same goes for SSRIs. The scientific consensus is that the serotonin deficiency theory of depression was wrong. When SSRIs actually work, we still don’t know why.
I’ve had bad trips, too. Very bad, but I still think that psilocybin (in a controlled, supportive setting) is a better bet. My bad trips were all due to being in bad settings and being completely unprepared for what could go wrong. I was young and dumb and just fucking around. But tripping in positive supportive settings was incredibly helpful. And if we do find a way to do this right, then people don’t have to take drugs for the rest of their lives. Psychiatric drugs are generally lifelong sentences, and negative side effects tend to compound over time, which often leads to polypharmacy, and more side effects.