I support RO water filters. But consider not cooking with that water either. I’d just bite the bullet and eliminate the lead.

When you have an RO water filter (like I do), you just use that for cooking.

Only about a 20dB improvement for something that has a zero safe exposure level.

I find the zero safe level needlessly shock oriented.

Many things have no safe value but a low level is less likely to play a major role in a life than another risk.. Cars, guns, opioids, suicide, cancer, maybe the last two have a minor lead influence, mostly outweighed by alcohol.

you do realize that other things have a no safe value...opioids no doctor can predict which dose of opioid produces the addiction...opioids first use was for pain medication for those with terminal diseases

it's alarmism to say zero safe exposure. For example, you should limit your tuna per week, but you don't need to stop eating tuna.

The problem with heavy metals is that they're cumulative, but it's also impossible to avoid them completely, so minimization is the strategy.

-20db is 1/100th which is a dramatic improvement, at least for that threat source.

To be clear, everyone alive today is still on average multiple iq points dumber than they would have been had we not burned tetraethyl lead 50 years ago, even though it has been banned for quite a while. Lead is THAT toxic.

Any source for this? Most of the research I've seen with regards to lead and IQ is correlational and could be confounded by intelligence being correlated with income which is associated with living in places with less lead exposure.

https://x.com/Noahpinion/status/1825584397363589312

Basically the IQ gap between the lead exposed and non exposed has stayed the same even though the amount of lead in the bloodstream has dropped by orders of magnitude. So either the first part of lead exposure is 100x more damaging then the 100th part of lead exposure (which animal models do not bear out) or a lot of the lead exposure IQ research is confounded.

I believe when in life you are exposed makes a difference too. Children are at a higher risk for being harmed by lead for a number of reasons including having less blood than an adult, and being more likely to eat paint chips off the ground than (most) adults. I'd imagine that lead replacing calcium in the brain during critical developmental periods also matters a lot.

Effects of calcium supplementation on blood lead levels and short term memory of chronically exposed children https://oamjms.eu/index.php/mjms/article/view/3285

>everyone alive today is still on average multiple iq points dumber than they would have been had we not burned tetraethyl lead 50 years ago

I agree not to dispute anything you say, if you agree to bring your "IQ is a great measure" argument to any future HN DEI discussion. Deal?

Lead is toxic at any dose.

This means is damages your neurons in any amount.

Contrast to say, copper, which doesn't start causing damage until levels exceed a certain tolerable threshold.

While lead is toxic at any amount, low amounts of lead cause low amounts of damage. It doesn't change the fact that the ideal exposure is 0 and over 99% of people have about 5 to 10 times the bond lead levels found in remains of our ancestors, and that even relatively low lead exposure levels from breathing lead in the air from just air pollution are linked to dramatically reduced IQ.

>99% of people have about 5 to 10 times the bond lead levels found in remains of our ancestors

99% of people live better lives than all of our ancestors, in every dimension.

if you're telling me it's because of lead, then lead is a good thing.

Silly.

it's silly hubris on your part to claim that you know that tetraethyl lead in gasoline was not a net positive for civilization: cheap gas in high compression cars leading to productivity gains? Could things have been better? you, of all people, have no idea.

Take it up with the EPA I guess?

https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/basic-in...

It's not trying to be alarmist, it's just different from things like, say, table salt, where small amounts over time are fine but 1 pound will kill.

I have a young toddler so would have needed multiple filters throughout the house. They tend to like to drink from the bath and my anxiety can’t handle that.