Google Cache Is Fully Dead

Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by ThinkBeat on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @05:46PM (#41641277)

I would presume Google still has all this data. They just will not let anyone else use it.

Could this be an advantage that Google can use to train their models on but others won't have access?

Google wants it to be more difficult to notice rewrites? Journalists to often have found valuable information with it?

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by selectodude on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @05:48PM (#41641303)

I feel like the internet archive has taken a lot of that sort of use off of Google.

Unrelated: Google should probably think about a sizable donation to the Internet archive.

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by amorfusblob on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @05:58PM (#41641397)

Some kind of collaboration appears to be happening between the two https://blog.archive.org/2024/09/11/new-feature-alert-access...

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by qingcharles on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @04:02PM (#41651271)

They should donate all their saved data from Google Cache too.

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by advisedwang on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @12:51PM (#41649355)

As I understand it, Google does a decent amount of rendering of a page before indexing; this a) allows it to index content loaded by JS and b) prevents some ways spammers show Google different content from users. Perhaps Google's main way of storing a page no longer matches something that can be easily served as a cache page. This might be a way to remove a legacy copy of each page and reduce storage costs.

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by account42 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @09:09AM (#41657969)

> prevents some ways spammers show Google different content from users.

Google obviously hasn't cared about that for a long time.

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by lofaszvanitt on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @02:17PM (#41650286)

Just with youtube, the surface area of these services is getting smaller and smaller and you get less and less. Too much optimization to the detriment of users. All the while search is still rooted in 90s concepts and only serves as a money making thing.

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Re:Google Cache Is Fully Dead by zepearl on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @05:06PM (#41651876)

> I would presume Google still has all this data. ...

Maybe - I guess that they must have served that "cached" content from DB-records that had it all saved directly (URL X has contents Y => basically a "mirror" of the terms that they indexed) => not having to store that "mirror" (only the search index) might save quite a lot of storage space (and I/O and CPU to decompress it, as users won't be requesting it anymore) => all in all that might save quite a lot of infrastructure costs $$$.

> Could this be an advantage that Google can use to train their models on but others won't have access?

Maybe (if they decided to just get rid of the I/O related to the user requests), but on the other hand I don't know if previously any "Google-consumer" was ever able to perform mass-downloads of Google's "cached" data - could that be done without being banned by Google's webpage (or API)?

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