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Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by butz on Sunday September 22, 2024 @09:39AM (#41616994)
Google Play probably kicked them off for not using latest Android SDK or something. So many tiny and high quality apps were lost.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by johnisgood on Sunday September 22, 2024 @10:32AM (#41617342)
Google is not only killing their own projects, but other people's, too.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by refulgentis on Sunday September 22, 2024 @02:11PM (#41618795)
I'm no fan of Google, but it's slightly more complicated than that, there's a lot of security and privacy stuff that can't be enforced if your app was build 6 years ago and still slopping around.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by tourmalinetaco on Sunday September 22, 2024 @03:17PM (#41619239)
Does that really matter for a local-only 5KB app that only talks with my phone‘s flashlight, or reads sensor data? Now, maybe for the 500MB adware-filled “flashlight” app that connects to 100s of servers and demands access to everything my device can do, but that would be banned on any competent app store anyway.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by ninetyninenine on Sunday September 22, 2024 @04:27PM (#41619788)
No but enforcing policy is manageable. Enforcing reasonable security measures based on nuances and case by case situations is not manageable for an ecosystem of that scale.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by JoshTriplett on Sunday September 22, 2024 @04:41PM (#41619897)
I don't know if this is still the case, but at one point the permission needed to access the flashlight also gave access to the camera. And there aren't restrictions on network connections from apps. (I'd love to have app network access restricted by permissions, but that would be a large change.)

And in any case, Android has had built-in flashlight support for a while now, for any phone that has a camera with a flash. Is the "turn the screen bright white" style still useful with modern Android?

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by freedomben on Sunday September 22, 2024 @07:22PM (#41620941)
Kind of a side note, but flashdim is an amazing open-source flashlight app that everybody needs[1][2][3].

[1]: https://github.com/cyb3rko/flashdim

[2]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.cyb3rko.flashdim/

[3]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cyb3rko.fl...

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by MrLeap on Sunday September 22, 2024 @06:19PM (#41620566)
It is if your flashlight's broke.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by ainka-ainka on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:07AM (#41625653)
GrapheneOS (https://grapheneos.org/) contains network access permission.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by epmaybe on Sunday September 22, 2024 @12:55PM (#41618260)
This is something that really bothered me - I had an app that was small and worked fine on the latest Android OS, yet they took the app and account down because we hadn’t uploaded a new version in a year. Appeals didn’t help
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by heyoni on Sunday September 22, 2024 @04:17PM (#41619716)
What was their reasoning?
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by jart on Sunday September 22, 2024 @05:34PM (#41620276)
To keep you running on the hamster wheel.

They'd ban Mozart and Shakespeare from the app store if they could.

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by bee_rider on Sunday September 22, 2024 @05:53PM (#41620406)
I don’t think that was their reasoning.

Like, Google, all these megacorps, they are bad, but we should at least argue against their actual arguments.

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by consteval on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @04:52PM (#41651755)
Their reasoning is probably security. They're working under the assumption your app takes untrusted input in some way, maybe over the network. Which isn't a bad assumption, I mean almost all apps do. Very few apps are true self-contained applications, like a calculator.

So then if there happens to be some vulnerabilities in an older Android SDK then your app is susceptible. They could patch back security but that's expensive after a while. Easier to force app makers to update their apps.

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by ryandrake on Sunday September 22, 2024 @06:17PM (#41620553)
3P app developers are also complicit. Often they deliberately cut off support for old OS's and old devices, because it's "too hard" to support them or whatever. Everyone seems to be working together to keep us on the hamster wheel.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by post-it on Sunday September 22, 2024 @09:10PM (#41621492)
Granted, it is hard. It's a whole extra version to QA on. If it works fine, fine, but if there are consistent negative user reviews on a version with < 5% market share, it's not worth it.

We don't support old iOS versions at all. We can't source new devices on old iOS versions so we can't reliably develop or test on them.

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by Narhem on Monday September 23, 2024 @12:17PM (#41627710)
Exactly how I feel about every new React framework. It’s strictly worse than using any other framework and every recruiter continues to ask for it.

Don’t want to speak too negative in regards to the orgs which use it but definitely wouldn’t be the best choice from an engineering perspective for a new project.

Sorry I am not a front end developer. I am a general software engineer please don’t effectively sabotage my career because Silicon Valley wants to make the entire discipline a group of hamsters learning tools which aren’t used by the largest organizations.

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by teqsun on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @08:43AM (#41635901)
> "It’s strictly worse than using any other framework"

If you actually believe that, consider yourself very lucky.

React, like any FE framework, can be implemented well or implemented badly.

React benefits from a very strong (imo the strongest) ecosystem, so if you set up your tooling and patterns correctly its fantastic.

Here's my personal preference: NextJS as the backbone, RTKQ as the central data retrieval/API calls/caching management, RHF for form handling, ag-grid for data grids, and MUI as the component library (can optionally switch this to any equivalent).

If components are designed sufficiently generic and customizable, RTKQ is used to keep data fetching on component instances, and central state storage is avoided as much as possible, it's a great system. Unless you just really hate JSX syntax or something.

Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by PhasmaFelis on Sunday September 22, 2024 @06:12PM (#41620526)
There may not have been any. Individual app-store reviewers can block you any time they feel like it, the guy checking your appeal is the same, and none of them have any real pressure to behave unless you have money and corporate power behind you.
Re:Flappy Bird for Android, only C, under 100KB by ClassyJacket on Sunday September 22, 2024 @07:39PM (#41621035)
That's horrendous, but it fits with Google's method of releasing a product, immediately abandoning it, and shutting it down permanently a year later.