There’s a “live by the sword, die by the sword” reaction that I have to this.

I think we expect better of democracies, which is why these kinds of attacks shock us. But it is interesting that we are unsurprised when Lebanon/Hezbollah uses terror tactics but it quickly becomes a news event when Israel responds in kind.

Ironic because drone bombings like we did in Afghanistan would probably have a much more terrible collateral damage effect but be less newsworthy. But somehow boobytrapping radios and pagers pricks our conscience. Maybe because it feels more personal, intimate, and therefore retributive?

I think it's newsworthy because it's such a unique move, almost like it's from a spy novel. Not because 9 people died, that unfortunately happens semi regularly in this conflict.

Targeting solar panels absolutely does hurt conscience.

My conscience was pricked when they killed probably 40,000 people in Palestine, so this extra 3,000 casualties is just more deaths from a terrorist state.

40,000 terriosts.

Including the children, right? Pretty disgusting comment that has no place on HN.

Hamas will kill their mothers, sisters and children if needed to spread their agenda.

40,000 terrorists.

I wasn’t aware those terrorists organizations had exploded devices in public spaces. Please share your source.

Just a few months ago, Hezbollah exploded a rocket in soccer field with children playing, killing 12 children. Doesn't get much more "exploding devices in public spaces" than that.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/11-killed-mostly-children-doze...

Very debatable. The local population seem to be under the impression that it was an iron dome missile that fell on the sports ground. Partly because they claim it is a regular occurance (malfunctioning dome missiles and detritus falling in the area).

Ask yourself, why would the Druze population be a target? It's almost unthinkable that Hezbollah deliberately targeted those civilians.

The local population are under no such impression.

Are you kidding? Here's just one of many: 14 FEB 2005 Beirut, Lebanon Suicide bomber detonated a VBIED, assassinates former Lebanese Prime Minister; 22 killed, 231 wounded

> I wasn’t aware those terrorists organizations had exploded devices in public spaces

They've done much worse.

The UN found Hezbollah (on behalf of the Assad regime) guilty of massacring 700 civilians in Daraya in 2012 [0].

The Daraya Massacre is what ended the prospect of a negotiated end to the Syrian Civil War, and radicalized a significant wave of Sunni FSA fighters to join Jabhat al-Nusra and the then fledgling Daesh.

The same leaders in Hezbollah that Israel has targeted over the past several weeks are the same ones that lead the Daraya Massacre [1] as well as other human right abuses in Syria and Lebanon.

More recently, Hezbollah has been indiscriminately shelling Northern Israel, which itself has lead to incidents like the Madjal Shams attack, which left 12 children dead [2].

Israel absolutely has been indiscriminate in Gaza and Lebanon, but so is every other actor (Hamas, Hezbollah, etc) in this tragedy.

This is war.

[0] - https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/aug/25/t...

[1] - https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/25/world/meast/syria-violence/in...

[2] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdal_Shams_attack

Does truck count as a device? Here is a history refresher https://aoav.org.uk/2020/a-short-history-of-suicide-bombings...

This is easily disprovable.

See pages 10-30 of this report and the associated inline sources - https://www.academia.edu/112967602/Bearing_Witness_to_the_Is...

When the US wants to guide a remote bomb into a hut in a village, estimations of the potential collateral damage are at least made and considered. This is the issue that the military community has with this attack. It was sloppy basically and none of this sort of assessment was made.

Discussion (169 points, 3 hours ago, 265 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41580853

I wonder how many of their telecom devices like routers, switches, etc. have bombs implanted in their power supplies

War and terrorism aside, for the rest of us, in practical terms, Israel can now never be trusted commercially for its software or hardware. Not only are they backdoored and exploited, but they also blow up and kill the user.

Do you think Israel is just randomly planting bombs in everything it makes? This was clearly a targeted op aimed at Hezbollah.

Yes, I actually do think that Israel is installing backdoors and explosives in 10x more things than they have activated in their current war against Lebanon.

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