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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by tivert on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:39PM (#41569594)
> I think it's far more likely that Mossad has infiltrated whatever foreign (non-Israeli) supply chain they were using.

Yeah. Wasn't there something in the Snowden leaks about the CIA intercepting servers in-transit to install implants on them? I'm sure Israel is doing something similar.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by ikmckenz on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:17PM (#41570101)
Photos of an NSA “upgrade” factory show Cisco router getting implant https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by g8oz on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @06:50PM (#41573713)
No wonder the U.S is so worried about Huawei.
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by dijit on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @06:53PM (#41573749)
Guilty parties often cast the first accusation.
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by jalk on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @02:22AM (#41576414)
"Thief believes everybody steals"
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by tivert on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @10:49AM (#41580401)
> "Thief believes everybody steals"

The correct analogy for espionage isn't crime. But even taking that framing, if everyone actually does steal, it doesn't do you any good to be naive and deny reality.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by jalk on Thursday September 19, 2024 @12:28AM (#41588496)
It's a proverb, not an analogy (hence the quotes). Read it like "Just because you do X, doesn't mean that everybody else does X too"
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by willvarfar on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:00PM (#41569847)
During the cold war, Russia intercepted typewriters and teleprinters going to the US and other embassies and inserted implants in them. https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by dredmorbius on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @06:26PM (#41573546)
And the US CIA ran the "Swiss" firm Crypto AG, which sold cable-encryption (as in telegraphic / telex coms) equipment with pre-installed back-doors:

<https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812499752/uncovering-the-cias...>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG>

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by grubbs on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:02PM (#41569888)
It was Cisco routers that made the headlines. Not sure of other gear: https://www.engadget.com/2014-05-16-nsa-bugged-cisco-routers...
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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by craftkiller on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:07PM (#41569958)
Yes there was. @48:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NFrjHmI35w&t=48m48s
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