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Re:Fall of the wild: why pristine wilderness is a human-made... by mdgrech23 on Friday September 13, 2024 @11:01AM (#41531869)
I know nothing about the issue but I hear recreational use and I immediately picture people driving 4 wheelers and dirt bikes through pristine land and I'm like nope.
Re:Fall of the wild: why pristine wilderness is a human-made... by aliasxneo on Friday September 13, 2024 @11:12AM (#41531962)
Another commenter said the same thing. I'm curious about the association because I spend a lot of time in my local state/national parks with recreational rules. I think I've run into a dirtbike once and never seen an ATV (although I see their tracks).

I'm sure it's geo-dependent, but I wonder if there's a wider media narrative driving the association.

Re:Fall of the wild: why pristine wilderness is a human-made... by bombcar on Friday September 13, 2024 @11:53AM (#41532363)
I think it really has to do with what's near you and what you're used to.

Nobody really cares about the four wheelers flying around on BLM land in the middle of the desert, but if the only "wilderness" near you is mostly ATV trails, it's not a fun place to hike. Those are often called "recreation areas" to distinguish them from places where no vehicles are allowed.

Re:Fall of the wild: why pristine wilderness is a human-made... by buttercraft on Friday September 13, 2024 @04:36PM (#41534884)
Yeah, it's inconsistent. I live near a national recreation area where mechanized travel is prohibited. Recreation includes camping, hiking, hunting, and fishing.
Re:Fall of the wild: why pristine wilderness is a human-made... by cruffle_duffle on Friday September 13, 2024 @11:52AM (#41532345)
Consider that without allowing some of that kind of use, there might not be enough political willpower for more “hardcore” things like wilderness areas. It’s a delicate balance between preservation and access and you (politically) cannot have one without the other.