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Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by FuriouslyAdrift on Thursday September 12, 2024 @03:15PM (#41524461)
Be interesting to see how this stacks up to a good entry level iron like the Hakko FX-888DX.

https://hakkousa.com/fx-888dx.html

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by bangaladore on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:05PM (#41524925)
I can guarantee it is leagues better. Frankly, I won't solder anymore unless it is with a direct-heat iron. They heat up instantly, cool down quickly, provide far better thermal transfer, and are much more comfortable to hold.

Don't brush off what I'm saying before you try a direct-heat iron (Hakko sells them, Pace does, and JBC is the gold standard). They are usually expensive from the big names, but even a Pinecil direct-heat iron for $30$ would be many times better than non-direct-heat irons.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by globular-toast on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:26PM (#41525146)
Is the OP one a direct heat iron?
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by bangaladore on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:32PM (#41525213)
Yes. The easiest way to tell is the soldering "tip" is much more than a tip. It's a cartridge. [1]

[1] https://hackaday.com/2024/09/12/review-ifixits-fixhub-may-be...

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by epiccoleman on Thursday September 12, 2024 @06:18PM (#41526225)
Oh man, I don't need to hear this. When I got my FX-888 I was blown away by the difference between it and the cheapo Radio Shack style one I had muddled through with as a teen. And now, for only $200 or so, I can get something that's another step change?

I don't even know when I last soldered and that's still tempting at a deep-seated nerd level.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by talldayo on Thursday September 12, 2024 @07:11PM (#41526619)
I can't recommend a Pinecil enough. It's cheap as chips and basically has all the best features of other irons I've used. No complaints, I've half a mind to stockpile them and hand them out as gifts to nerd-inclined friends.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by epiccoleman on Thursday September 12, 2024 @09:12PM (#41527244)
$30? $30?!

You got me. Pinecil is en route. Thanks for the recommendation!

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by talldayo on Friday September 13, 2024 @12:18AM (#41527992)
Enjoy! Best hidden feature is the Bluetooth connectivity that lets you dial in precise controls from your phone or browser. It's definitely a keeper, and doubles as "that one RISC-V thing I own" when your nerd friends drop by.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by javchz on Friday September 13, 2024 @10:07PM (#41536941)
Me too, I used to think I hated soldering, until I tried a proper solder station in a shop, but for the amount of repairs I do, I couldn't justify spend 200 in something like that, but this PINECIL sounds like a great middle ground.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by talldayo on Saturday September 14, 2024 @12:09AM (#41537408)
It's pretty nice. The key is to have a high enough wattage USB that you can feed it over 50w for a quick heatup, in my experience. I use a fast charger brick I bought for my phone and it works like a charm.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by the__alchemist on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:08PM (#41524975)
This is the key question.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by manoweb on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:39PM (#41525286)
Oh yeah, it will be MUCH better, not even close. And I own a Hakko. The new wave of USB irons is incredibly better
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by throwgfgfd25 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @05:52PM (#41525975)
I am, it should be noted, _fucking terrible_ at soldering. But my TS-101 actually gives me hope. I'm so happy with it.

(It's also incredibly, incredibly useful for heat-set inserts, because you get to decide really precisely how long they will take to insert!)

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by pkolaczk on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:59PM (#41525507)
Hakko fx888 is a good quality iron but quite outdated tech. The biggest downside is it doesn’t measure the temperature at the tip, but at the heater.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by blahlabs on Thursday September 12, 2024 @07:19PM (#41526664)
When I first bought mine I tried to adjust the temperature in what felt like the natural way to do so, without rtfm first of course.

Then I quickly learned that I had adjusted the temperature calibration. I reverted what I had done but now I am not confident about the temperature its operating at, at all. Seems a terrible interface design.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by XorNot on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:24PM (#41527029)
Yep I did that too.

I recalibrated by using the thermocouple on my multimeter.

That's not my biggest problem though - my biggest problem has just been keeping tips tinned properly. I've succeeded once, but it constantly feels like a struggle.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by pkolaczk on Friday September 13, 2024 @03:26AM (#41528837)
I found that brass wool works better at keeping tips tinned. A sponge removes all the solder and you have to quickly tin the tip immediately after wiping, otherwise it oxidizes. Wiping with brass wool leaves a thin layer of solder on the tip.

Also keeping the tip at moderate temperature range helps avoid oxidation - most manufacturers recommend to never exceed 400 C. JBC recommends to not exceed 370 C.

Hope this helps.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by BraverHeart on Thursday September 12, 2024 @07:33PM (#41526767)
Can you suggest an alternative please?
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by auxym on Thursday September 12, 2024 @08:42PM (#41527111)
In the hakko line, fx-951 is the step-up which uses a heater and sensor in the tip (t15/t12 tips).

The alternative, for a hobbyist, would be something like this new iFixit iron, the Pinecil, Miniware TS80/TS100 or one of the variety of chinese irons from amazon and Aliexpress that take Hakko T12 tips (Quicko and similar).

On the high-end, professional side, it's JBC and Metcal. Expensive.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by dannas on Friday September 13, 2024 @01:39AM (#41528285)
I recommend https://eleshop.eu/jbc-bt-2bqa-soldering-station.html

The handle is so light! Active tips! Heats up in 2 seconds. Goes to standby mode when you put away the handle to save the tips.

There's even a lighter compatible precision handle that you can buy.

Luke Gorrie posted a bunch of Twitter threads where he compare the sizes of soldering handles. Can't find it now but https://github.com/lukego/soldering might lead you to them.

Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by dannas on Friday September 13, 2024 @04:02AM (#41529031)
Here's the photo of different soldering handles: https://x.com/lukego/status/1308366430849716226/photo/1
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by aconbere on Friday September 13, 2024 @12:59AM (#41528136)
I upgraded to a Pace ADS200 and it’s dope.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by chuho on Friday September 13, 2024 @02:23PM (#41533749)
I'm a ADS200 fan, too. Bought one recently after way too many years of using a 30W Weller. Having a big choice of tips is nice. As a bonus, it's made in the US. I've been able to tackle projects that I'd never have even thought of trying with the old soldering iron.
Re:Show HN: iFixit created a new USB-C, repairable soldering... by pkolaczk on Friday September 13, 2024 @02:42AM (#41528609)
For affordable, semi-professional grade equipment, it is hard to beat Quick. I have Quick 202d + Quick 861dw. The tips on 202d are integrated with thermocouples and heating is indirect but inductive, which strikes a nice balance between the price of the tips (3x more affordable than cartridge tips) and performance (heats just like cartridge tips). The handle is light and has short grip-to-tip distance. I still use the original tips I bought a few years ago, so they last. I always soldered lead free and I’m shocked people on the internet find lead free hard. Some even said I must be nuts to solder lead free at 600-650F.