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Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by makeitdouble on Monday September 09, 2024 @06:39PM (#41494968)
> iPhone SE 1st Generation

To note, that's a regional thing. It seems to stop at gen2 for Asian countries for ex.

> Budgeting $69-99 once every 3-4 years

iPhone batteries become subpar way faster than that, especially the older models who get more strained as they bear the heavier OS. Once every year and a half looks more realistic to me.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by givinguflac on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:08PM (#41495259)
FWIW I got a launch iPhone X I gave to my dad with original battery now at 73% health, OLED screen burn in, and a broken charging port (wireless charging still works), and he’s still using it as a daily driver lol.

So while batteries certainly can go subpar faster, they can and do last much longer sometimes.

I also babied it and rarely charged above 80 or fell below 25, which may have played a part but who knows.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by tomcam on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:18PM (#41495348)
Not trying to be rude here. How did the screen burn-in happen?
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by givinguflac on Monday September 09, 2024 @09:58PM (#41496439)
My dad loves to keep it on max brightness without screen auto lock and leaves the keyboard up. It shows ghost keys on lighter screen images.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by tomcam on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @02:43AM (#41508639)
Impressive. I didn’t know that was even possible. I am a living set of edge cases and I empathize.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by prepend on Monday September 09, 2024 @08:00PM (#41495689)
I typically keep mine for about 3-4 years. I’ve never replaced the battery.

And I’ve never met anyone who replaces their battery after a year and a half. At least not an iPhone.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by chemmail on Monday September 09, 2024 @09:26PM (#41496270)
Most batteries are made in China (or even cheaper places) now, so they simply do not last. I have iPad 2s that still last for MONTHs without charging. Nowdays iPhone batteries start heavy degradation about 2 years in. That 20-25% loss means all day battery to needing to charge at least once before going to bed for many. Source: I replace more batteries now than screens.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by brianwawok on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @11:14AM (#41501606)
I don't think those numbers are right. I am at exactly 3 years on my 13 pro, and I have 92% battery life yet.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by prepend on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @01:13PM (#41503123)
I rarely replace batteries. I have three phones in use and 2 iPads. I’ve had this config for 10+ years.

I’ve replaced a battery once.

Maybe I’m just lucky. But I also don’t view having to charge during the day as a problem that I need to fix. Other than just charging it.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by tomcam on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:17PM (#41495340)
> iPhone batteries become subpar way faster than that, especially the older models who get more strained as they bear the heavier OS

Anecdote from one person who buys lots of phones for extended family: I see no such phenomenon

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by makeitdouble on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:47PM (#41495588)
To go for the official rating, up to the iPhone 14 it was 80% of the original charge after 500 cycles [0] and got improved (1000 !) later.

500 cycles can be a lot if you mostly keep it as a standby device to stay reachable, but not that much if you actually use the phone everyday.

That's less than 2 years if you completely drain the phone at least once a day. Our kid easily goes through two full charges in a day, especially on weekends. It really depends on what you use your phone for.

Also I think some people live with a < 70% battery without really minding it much. That's IMO only viable if you don't have a winter, where the battery efficiency becomes so worse. That's the combination of weak battery + poor weather that triggered the phone shutdown for me when BatteryGate was the rage.

[0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/101575

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by riversflow on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:47PM (#41495590)
I use an iPhone SE2 that I got refurbished in the past 6 months by Apple. I couldn't replace just the battery, because the rear glass had a crack in it. This thing is a mess, refurbishing it feels like a waste of money. It runs out of battery almost daily, has terrible multi-second camera lag when I open the camera app from the lockscreen. Often the phone will just have like a quarter second of UI lag for no obvious reason. The experience is overall very slow and frustrating, an enormous degradation from when I got it as a gift 4 years ago (part of why I'm still using it).

It's a shame, because I like the phone a lot otherwise.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by yreg on Monday September 09, 2024 @06:56PM (#41495147)
Southeast Asian countries have no lack of cheap 3rd party shops that can do high-skilled repairs on pretty much any iPhone model.

Also, 3 year battery life is much more realistic to me than 1.5 years, but that's just personal experience.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by makeitdouble on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:05PM (#41495231)
On the battery thing, that might depend how much games are run on it. We hand down devices, and replace the battery if its life is below the 70% mark so to somewhat refresh the device. The SE 2nd gen we handed down already had two battery replacements at this point and I'll probably ask for a third before it falls off the support list.

On third party repairs...it's sure getting better, hopefully in other regions as well.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by yreg on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:15PM (#41495324)
> On the battery thing, that might depend how much games are run on it.

Ah, could be. I use iPhones intensively, but almost never for gaming.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by northernman on Monday September 09, 2024 @06:56PM (#41495144)
Nonsense
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by thebruce87m on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @04:18AM (#41498456)
iPhone 11 here and no battery complaints