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Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by NavinF on Sunday September 08, 2024 @03:16PM (#41482437)
You could power limit the 3090s to fit a standard 120V*20A = 2400W outlet if you really want to. The default power limit is 350W each so you'll only lose a little perf.

Also most rooms have multiple circuits. Just connect half the GPUs to each outlet. I already do this with my desktop PC because it has 2 PSUs.

Also most homes in the US have 30A*240V = 7200W dryer/stove outlets in the kitchen, laundry room, garage, etc. That's where you want to keep loud computers.

Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by jrflowers on Sunday September 08, 2024 @03:21PM (#41482480)
Brb replacing my stove with a bunch of GPUs
Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by philsnow on Sunday September 08, 2024 @03:32PM (#41482559)
Easy-bake cryptominer
Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by lvncelot on Sunday September 08, 2024 @03:28PM (#41482528)
Inference Oven
Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by qingcharles on Sunday September 08, 2024 @04:28PM (#41482939)
You can cook on the GPUs from now on.
Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by Dylan16807 on Sunday September 08, 2024 @04:30PM (#41482960)
A standard outlet is 15A, and you're only allowed to use 80% continuously. So now you're dropping to 150W each.

Using two circuits is viable.

Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by NavinF on Sunday September 08, 2024 @06:13PM (#41483689)
In the bay area every home I've lived in had 20A circuits for everything.

The NEC 80% rule is only relevant in data centers where someone enforces it. The time-current curve for any 20A breaker shows that it will take infinite time to trip when you draw 20A. This is correct behavior because 12awg wire can handle 20A indefinitely

Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by Dylan16807 on Sunday September 08, 2024 @06:21PM (#41483729)
Do they actually install the 20A outlets with the sideways part? I don't know if I've ever seen one in person.

I guess the outlet doesn't matter a whole lot, especially if you take multiple cables to the wall.

But I still don't want to be doing unenforced electrical violations.

Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by NavinF on Sunday September 08, 2024 @06:58PM (#41483966)
Some outlets have the 20A sideways part, but from a safety/code perspective that's irrelevant.

Consider what happens when you plug two 10A devices into a power strip. In the US there are no true 15A rated outlets. All outlets must handle 20A because the electrical code allows any outlet to be on a 20A breaker.

Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by Dylan16807 on Sunday September 08, 2024 @07:00PM (#41483978)
> Consider what happens when you plug two 10A devices into a power strip.

I don't know about any argument that depends on such an action being safe. There's plenty of power strips I wouldn't trust with 20 amps.

Re:Serving AI from the Basement – 192GB of VRAM Setup by NavinF on Sunday September 08, 2024 @07:10PM (#41484032)
That's just how the US electrical code works. I assure you that every "15A" outlet on the wall can handle 20A. That's why products like this don't have a fuse: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Woods-2-ft-12-3-SJTW-Multi-Outle...