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Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by blackeyeblitzar on Saturday August 31, 2024 @06:54PM (#41412658)
Is this people being forced by the authoritarian Brazilian judge to find an alternative to X? Sad to see them continue violating their own constitution to attack political opposition. Twitter/X was right to fight the illegal secret orders. Let’s see if Bluesky has a backbone to stand up for freedom of expression.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by perihelions on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:22PM (#41412809)
It does indeed look like BlueSky overtly celebrating a nation-state banning Twitter, their competitor.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by pfraze on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:26PM (#41412833)
Mike Masnick is on our board and wrote some commentary on this: https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/30/brazil-bans-extwitter-in...

I do have to ask where the equivalent free-speech outrage is that Musk is overtly campaigning for a political party via X.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by perihelions on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:34PM (#41412880)
I highly respect Mike Masnick and Mike Masnick speaks for himself and the BlueSky official account speaks for itself, and they have different takes.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by sillyalbatross on Sunday September 01, 2024 @12:19AM (#41414263)
Musk, like anyone else, has a right to endorse whoever he wants. Unless there's evidence that he's mass censoring or banning Democrats, I don't really see why there'd be any outrage. No one certainly seems to care when Silicon Valley big wigs donate to the other side.

Seems like even Masnick agrees, albeit begrudgingly, that this judge is an authoritarian. Where I cannot agree with Masnick is the implication that Musk and this man are somehow both equally wrong.

A government official, no less a judge, should be held to a far higher standard as his actions impact hundreds of millions of people. And as we can see by his unprecedented order banning VPNs, he clearly lacks the circumspection and self-reflection necessary to hold such an important office.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by pfraze on Sunday September 01, 2024 @12:35AM (#41414324)
As a libertarian, how am I supposed to believe in the authenticity and neutrality of the network that Musk is operating when he openly supports a specific political ideology with his public actions? He shows no dedication to neutrality in his statements, so why should I believe he shows it with his decisions?

If the measure of a high standard is the number of people impacted, how many people would you say are affected by Musk, or the other private owners of social networks?

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by chjj on Sunday September 01, 2024 @01:42AM (#41414612)
You're a libertarian, but you have issues with someone holding their own political opinions. Interesting combination.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by pfraze on Sunday September 01, 2024 @03:27AM (#41414993)
I have a problem with someone imposing their political opinions on others by buying the means of publishing and communication. You don’t?
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by bilvar on Sunday September 01, 2024 @04:09AM (#41415147)
He is not imposing anything on anyone. He has the same right to express his opinions as anybody else has, and his platform clearly allows everyone else to do the same - in contrast with what the previous executives of Twitter did.

That sounds a lot like copium to justify an authoritarian action by the state because it benefits you personally.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by UberFly on Sunday September 01, 2024 @02:31AM (#41414781)
> He shows no dedication to neutrality in his statements

How about his actions? He's been miles more democratic than the previous owners of Twitter.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by forinti on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:24PM (#41412824)
X failed to block accounts that were committing crimes. X went so far as to close its office so as not to have to answer legal orders. How is that reasonable?

This is not a free speech issue, no matter what Musk says.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by throwawa14223 on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:37PM (#41412895)
How is that not free speech? I wish more companies would be heroic and snub legal orders.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by blackeyeblitzar on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:30PM (#41412853)
Brazil’s constitution guarantees freedom of expression without censorship. That’s the whole issue. Everything else is noise. If the secret censorship orders were legal, X would have complied. It also has nothing to do with Musk since X has a CEO making these decisions.

Also your comment is misinformation - you know, the kind of thing this judge in Brazil would send you to jail for. Specifically this part:

> X went so far as to close its office so as not to have to answer legal orders

They closed their office because Alexandre de Moraes, the judge issuing these unilateral censorship orders in secret without public transparency, also decided to threaten Twitter/X’s legal representative with fines and jail time. He also threatened to seize their personal financial assets. So X had no choice but to close their Brazilian office to avoid having their employees or representation threatened and jailed.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by SpicyLemonZest on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:50PM (#41413261)
How do you know that the accounts X failed to block were committing crimes? My understanding is that the judge in this matter hasn't published any information about the block orders or why he issued them.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by hu3 on Saturday August 31, 2024 @09:29PM (#41413467)
It's interesting to point out that if your message was a tweet, it could have been classified as misinformation by the judge and have been the target of a secret court order to shadowban your account, request any and all your PII that Twitter might have, and prohibit Twitter from even letting you know.

All that without the possibility of your defense because he has been acting as the judge and the jury.

So much for free speech.

Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by mensetmanusman on Saturday August 31, 2024 @10:16PM (#41413677)
It’s a crime to dishonor corrupt judges.
Re:Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky by root_axis on Sunday September 01, 2024 @03:18AM (#41414965)
Musk regularly censors speech on twitter based on his personal prerogatives, political and otherwise.

I'm not sure what he was asked to censor, but my guess is that it's content that aligns with his political agenda and that is why he is resisting.