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Re:Judge dismisses majority of GitHub Copilot copyright claims by xpl on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:25PM (#41385909)
There are legendary Prodigy tracks reconstructions by Jim Pavloff, see:

1. "Smack my bitch up" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI

2. "Voodoo people" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw

Those pieces sound exactly the same as the original, but it does not violate copyright because they've been produced by hand. Mind blowing!

Re:Judge dismisses majority of GitHub Copilot copyright claims by codedokode on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:53PM (#41386122)
In Prodigy's defense, the samples were very creatively transformed so that the final result does not resemble the originals. It is more like cutting a small patches from paintings to make a new painting (rather than drawing a similar painting), and it is not what ML model do today.
Re:Judge dismisses majority of GitHub Copilot copyright claims by rowanG077 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @08:46PM (#41386060)
They definitely don't sound the same, very similar yes but far from the same. Besides was it proven in court or otherwise by some legal entity that these songs aren't considered copyright violations? Just because it has not been legislated doesn't prove it isn't copyright violation.

Anyway I'm definitely not a copyright expert but I just found this argument extremely weak.

Re:Judge dismisses majority of GitHub Copilot copyright claims by cthalupa on Thursday August 29, 2024 @02:14AM (#41387871)
That is not how copyright works. Music in the US and many similar legal systems has a compulsory license provision that allows for anyone to produce and distribute covers of music as long as all licensing requirements are met. With the long history of covers in music, how much enforcement there is around the meeting the licensing requirements bit varies pretty wildly. If you are not complying with the licensing terms, however, and the rights holder comes after you, no amount of having copied the song by hand will protect you from copyright claims.

Similarly, I can't draw a batman cartoon with pencil and paper and avoid copyright claims when I try to sell the episodes.

Please do not go around infringing on copyright and thinking it's OK because you recreated whatever it was by hand.

Re:Judge dismisses majority of GitHub Copilot copyright claims by throw_m239339 on Thursday August 29, 2024 @08:12AM (#41389983)
> Those pieces sound exactly the same as the original, but it does not violate copyright because they've been produced by hand. Mind blowing!

Jim Pavloff was never sued by Prodigy or the right owners.

On the other hand:

https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/blurred-lines-...

> Marvin Gaye’s Estate won a lawsuit against Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams for the hit song “Blurred Lines,” which had a similar feel to one of his songs

Which refutes your assertion of no potential copyright violation.

Re:Judge dismisses majority of GitHub Copilot copyright claims by paulddraper on Thursday August 29, 2024 @03:07PM (#41394258)
A. These were never taken to court.

B. They don't sound exactly the same as the original.

C. That they were produced by hand or automation is irrelevant.