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Re:Modern Wardriving by devilbunny on Sunday August 25, 2024 @10:30AM (#41347556)
WiFi is wonderful magic, but I’m not giving you the password to my private network.
Re:Modern Wardriving by breck on Sunday August 25, 2024 @10:34AM (#41347581)
Why not make your community better by having your router also broadcast an open public network?
Re:Modern Wardriving by stackghost on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:06AM (#41347814)
Because freeloaders and/or malicious actors will abuse my generosity
Re:Modern Wardriving by wizzwizz4 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:20AM (#41347910)
Freeloaders? Well, yeah: isn't that the whole point? We're all freeloaders, in some sense, unless you think you've earned the water you drink and the air you breathe. By giving back to the Freeloader-available Resource Pool (the commons), you're becoming less of a freeloader.

Malicious actors? That relies on there being malicious actors physically near you, which isn't necessarily a valid assumption. Set up a DMZ, try it, and see.

Re:Modern Wardriving by sandworm101 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:36AM (#41348037)
Your view will change once you see your home IP address on the search warrant. And no, i am not going to invite the public to share in my vpn too.
Re:Modern Wardriving by wizzwizz4 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:47AM (#41348156)
(A) That's not how search warrants work.

(B) Having your computers spuriously seized for a police investigation is a risk shared by every computer user, but those investigations cost money. They don't tend to seize your hardware frivolously, except to intimidate (fairly common for security researchers, for some reason). If you have a public Wi-Fi network, and there's no reason to believe you're a culprit, they're more likely to ask you to keep MAC address logs, or shut down the public Wi-Fi network, than assume you dunnit and try to prosecute with insufficient evidence. You're at far more risk running a Tor exit node than a public Wi-Fi network, and most Tor exit nodes don't get raided by the police.

Your neighbours are probably not cybercriminals. It's probably okay to be nice to them.

Re:Modern Wardriving by sandworm101 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:59AM (#41348280)
>> having your computers spuriously seized for a police investigation is a risk shared by every computer user

Not where i live. We have layers of rules specifically designed to prevent random actions by police.

Re:Modern Wardriving by wizzwizz4 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:43PM (#41348741)
It's not the street-level police who sign the warrants for seizing computer hardware.

Yes, the risk is quite low, but it's a risk shared by any occupant of an INTERPOL member state.

Re:Modern Wardriving by throwaway22032 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @01:04PM (#41348996)
Well, I've certainly earned the plumbing system that supplies the water to my house, I pay for it and my labour indirectly supports the building out of that system.

WiFi isn't some sort of aether, it is created.

Re:Modern Wardriving by dylan604 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @02:31PM (#41349895)
> unless you think you've earned the water you drink

Earned? WTF logic is that? I pay for the water I drink. What in the world are you on about?

Re:Modern Wardriving by stackghost on Sunday August 25, 2024 @06:52PM (#41352227)
>Set up a DMZ, try it, and see

No, I don't think I will. I will continue to keep my wifi password protected so that randoms can't degrade my Internet speed by torrenting movies 24/7, send death threats to public officials from my IP address, or engage in other unsavory activities.

Not sure why you are equating a natural resource like air with a paid service like Internet connectivity, but it comes off as bizarre and naive at best.

Re:Modern Wardriving by sulandor on Monday August 26, 2024 @11:00AM (#41357802)
probably worlds colliding

some ppl view "internet service" similar as access to drinking water, which some countries have legal obligations for and the public sentiment would be very much against you if you deny it to any stranger.

some countries/ppl not so much

Re:Modern Wardriving by wizzwizz4 on Monday August 26, 2024 @03:31PM (#41360883)
Worse than that, some jurisdictions double-dip: regulate internet access like a utility, but treat it as a private resource (allowing regional monopolies of barely-usable service); make an internet connection legally mandatory (via a combination of employment, banking, and anti-homeless laws), but decline to fund public libraries (which provide internet access to those who otherwise don't have it).
Re:Modern Wardriving by inkubus on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:06AM (#41347816)
someone can do some bad tnings on internet with help of your wifi?
Re:Modern Wardriving by patrick451 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @10:53AM (#41347718)
For the same reasons I don't invite the entire neighborhood into my kitchen for dinner every night. If people want wifi, they can buy it themselves.
Re:Modern Wardriving by cess11 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:39PM (#41348695)
They might be dissidents that don't want their internet traffic associated with their physical identity, which makes it quite hard to "buy it themselves" in places where cash isn't used or ID cards are commonly registered.
Re:Modern Wardriving by patrick451 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @10:06PM (#41353362)
In which case I don't want their activity associated with my ip.

Dissidenting safely is their problem, not mine.

Re:Modern Wardriving by hollerith on Sunday August 25, 2024 @10:09PM (#41353378)
I agree. If my government ever turns evil, then I'll open my wireless access point.
Re:Modern Wardriving by cess11 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @01:55AM (#41376376)
What jurisdiction are you living in?
Re:Modern Wardriving by senectus1 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @08:48PM (#41352900)
I fear what they're up to... Download or broadcasting CP primarily.

who knows what freaky stuff my community gets into.