Not really in Britain. Labour tried to introduce some national id in early 2000s, the right wingers were the ones who objected the most. The same right wingers who are most anti-immigration

I think most of those right wingers are against illegal immigration. There's a big distinction here.

I think very few of those so-called right-wingers are -say- against doctors immigrating to one's country if there's a doctor shortage. As long as immigration is all done using legal means. And with proper checks and balances.

I'm a right winger (but not born and raised in the UK). And I am very much against illegal immigration. I also don't want to be required to wear an identity card / passport with me at all times.

Actually, with proper immigration policies in place, the state can be sure that most people inside the state are legal, law-abiding citizens. I don't think in such cases it does make sense to require people to wear an id card with them at all times.

Yes they are against all immigrants.

There were just a series of mass race riots by right-wingers across the UK, in which they went around smashing up shops owned by immigrants and beating up people who don't look white. This isn't about illegal immigration. It's about racism.

conveniently emitting the fact that this is a reaction to immigrants going around randomly attacking birtish people. If you aren't already consider workong for MSM.

That doesn't make it any less racist!

But please give some more details on that. The only case I've heard about was a single attacker who was incorrectly called an immigrant.

It adds context which people who manipulate the overtone window for political games and name calling like to exclude.

The person was a immigrants child. Considering there obvious (violent) refusal to integrate they are too an immigrant.

It's completely bonkers to have retaliation like that against a single attack that isn't part of a pattern.

Like, that context arguably makes it worse than if there was no inciting incident, because it's so blatantly blaming a huge group for one person.

It's like justifying pogroms against Jews because one Jewish person committed a crime. It's racist and utterly disgusting.

are you implying that there are jewish grooming gangs that operate above the law?

Are you implying that small numbers of Muslim criminals justify mob violence against random Muslims on the street?

its not a single attack but not like the news you listen to would report that.

it is a pattern.

So is your goal here to see how many times you can make bigoted claims without evidence before someone comments on your very name being "strawman"?

To bring up more things in the broader context, were there not several "grooming gangs" that were active in Britain recently and the police were reluctant to investigate/prosecute them as it might appear racist?

Police were reluctant to investigate celebrity grooming gangs, Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter, Huw Edwards, Russell Brand, etc.

Police were reluctant to investigate political grooming gangs, those in the House of Lords, nobility, etc.

Police were reluctant to investigate religuous grooming gangs, Christian Brothers ets.

I can't see how immigrant pedos are infinity worse rather than just more of the same.

The reluctance to investigate seems to be the issue, now it's compounded by scapegoating.

there are literal no go zones the police will not touch out of fear. If you can't figure out how law less zones and being socially untouchable could make doing crimes easier and harder to prevent, then there is nothing that could convince you.

> there are literal no go zones the police will not touch out of fear.

GPS coords then? Street names?

Any chance of a decent curry?

No, it's not based on that.

It was based on a false rumor that spread on social media that the perpetrator of a recent triple murder was a Muslim asylum seeker. It turns out that the perpetrator is a British citizen who was born in Britain and is Christian.

What this reminds me of are pogroms in Eastern Europe, which were often sparked by false rumors about Jews.

Yeah, id cards aren't mandatory in France either because the precedent when they were comes from literal Nazis. (At least theoretically, in practice you will face a lot of pressure...)