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Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by paxys on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @10:19PM (#41241944)
Funny then how every single company that has leapfrogged Google in AI (Microsoft, Meta, OpenAI, Anthropic) has the exact same or even more lenient office policy. All they all did their most critical work during the Covid years when every single employee was working from home full time.

Poor leaders will blame everything but their own failures. When was the last time Google had a coherent product vision?

Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by Terr_ on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @11:43PM (#41242359)
Given that this guy left the company in 2015, some of that may also be the classic "Old Guy Complains Youth Don't Work Hard Anymore" phenomenon.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by hirako2000 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @02:10AM (#41243103)
> (Nvidia) has a rule that new PhD hires have to work “in the factory, on the basement floor.”

Him picking the most educated means it isn't an age/generational problem.

He could have picked the c suite. But no.

Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by foogazi on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @03:57AM (#41243688)
Like how many girlfriends should a CEO/VC have ? Isn’t that distracting ?
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by paxys on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:32AM (#41246534)
TSMC, not Nvidia. Nvidia doesn't have factories, since they rely on external manufacturers.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by josefresco on Thursday August 15, 2024 @10:29AM (#41256559)
Speaking of Nvidia, here's what Aaron Erickson Sr. Engineering Manager at @NVIDIA said:

"To be fair, he has no fucking idea what he is talking about.

NVIDIA is a strong WFH culture, and we're doing just fine."

https://x.com/aaronerickson/status/1823774941667541357

Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by aaomidi on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @11:31AM (#41247247)
He’s still on the board and is instrumental for the companies failures.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by microtherion on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @10:33PM (#41242017)
OpenAI seems to have backed away from Work from Home: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/openai-ceo-sam-altman-says-22...

Or at least rhetorically; no idea what their actual practice is.

But considering that e.g. Apple lost important senior contributors over the return to a hybrid work model, I would not be surprised if employees with some leverage at ostensibly f2f companies were not given ongoing WfH privileges.

Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by dtquad on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @11:03PM (#41242143)
Both Anthropic and OpenAI extensively used (and continue to use) remote workers for fullstack and frontend development. But their core AI researchers and engineers are in the office.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by dilyevsky on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @01:23AM (#41242823)
I know several people who interviewed at OAI recently and they were told explicitly it's office only. None of them were ML devs so it's probably highly team dependent.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by theogravity on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @03:28AM (#41243473)
I had an initial talk for a non-AI eng role with OpenAI, and they required in-office to SF, which was a no-go for me as someone who lives in the deep south bay.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by 1-6 on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @10:25PM (#41241979)
You can have unlimited PTO or flexible in-office hours but you can’t have both.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by cosmotic on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @10:59PM (#41242126)
Why not?
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by benterix on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @08:55AM (#41245537)
And the reason for this is...?
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by randomdata on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:03AM (#41246209)
Presumably he is speaking in terms of policy.

Flexible in-office hours is a subset of unlimited PTO. Where there is unlimited PTO there is also flexible in-office hours by virtue, so, yes, technically you can have both. If you have unlimited PTO you can't not have flexible in-office hours.

However, if there is a flexible in-office hours policy in force, that does mean you can't have unlimited PTO. The additional restrictions placed on flexible in-office hours – those which narrow it to being a subset of unlimited PTO – would violate the grander unlimited PTO.

If an organization claims to have both a flexible in-office hours and unlimited PTO policy, there is a contradiction. While you can pretend to have both, you don't really have both. One ultimately has to supersede the other.

Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by znpy on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @03:18AM (#41243392)
As a customer or various web things I have just learned that google is not to be trusted with anything important: they’ll either kill it in a year or make it shitty enough to make me do work twice (once for adopting and once for moving away).

But hey, let’s blame it on workers that want to work from home.

Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by mlfreeman on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @09:22AM (#41245782)
Google’s track record of killing stuff quickly has got to be demotivating for employees.
Re:Former Google CEO blames remote work for company's struggles by thefujin on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @05:40PM (#41250784)
He mentioned remote work as a part of the bigger issue of WLB. I’m pretty sure in Meta the expectation is way higher in terms of effort and level of performance