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Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by triyambakam on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:47AM (#41158976)
Why might this be affecting BTC?
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by wcoenen on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:18AM (#41159115)
Selling of all risky assets tends to be correlated. It's called "risk off" sentiment.

This happens because when one asset drop in price, leveraged investors (i.e. those who borrowed to buy) may get "margin calls" from their lenders. This means that the total value of their portfolio (when including the loan) is in danger of going negative, and they may need to sell everything.

Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by triyambakam on Monday August 05, 2024 @08:32AM (#41160716)
Thanks for explaining those terms, very helpful!
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by pjc50 on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:04AM (#41159049)
Markets move together, even when they're not "supposed" to.
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by Ekaros on Monday August 05, 2024 @05:24AM (#41159449)
I don't find it at all surprising that "tech" "gold" would be correlated with other tech stocks. And tech stocks being so big dominating most of the market. Leading to general correlation between everything.

Bitcoin is probably lot less safe heaven than most people invested in it think.

Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by BLKNSLVR on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:53AM (#41159006)
My media's telling me that US recession fears are affecting US stocks. And when US stocks are affected, the effect on cryptocurrencies is generally magnified since cryptocurrency is viewed as a risk asset, so one of the first to be sold off in a panic.
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by Aardwolf on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:05AM (#41159054)
Do you have a view on which president candidate is causing the biggest recession fears, if any?
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by BLKNSLVR on Monday August 05, 2024 @05:10AM (#41159394)
I think it's just the numbers causing the fear.

I actually haven't thought about it in terms of presidential candidate selection. But to engage in conjecture, I'd very uncontroversially say that it's precisely split down party lines - if you're going to vote Democrat then you're going to thing the Republicans are more likely to make recession worse, and vice versa.

Personally, I think parties and politicians are somewhat leaves on the stream of momentum and world events. They may have some control of variations in speed and direction, but nowhere near what they're blamed / given credit for.

This recession is a predictable outcome of the global shake up caused by COVID, and particularly the money printing / incentive cheques, which was a political decision. But not doing it could have had a worse result, who knows?

Japan's situation, Ukraine, and now Israel and Iran, those destabilising forces are going to do more to world economics than any individual politician or country (although the US's influence is outsized).

Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by treme on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:52AM (#41159004)
Many investment strategies involve burrowing yen at low interest rate to place else where with higher roi.
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by baq on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:06AM (#41159059)
BTC is just another asset to diversify into, so it'd be really weird if it wasn't affected by global deleveraging and some margin calls, even if tradfi.
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by TMWNN on Monday August 05, 2024 @08:05AM (#41160495)
It occurs to me that BTC behaving this way is a good thing in the long term, because it means that people are treating it like other asset classes—something to rotate in/out of as appropriate—as opposed to its own thing (which, in this context, means "different"/"bad")
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by xyst on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:55AM (#41159015)
Whales offloading assets to cover losses, I guess.
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by seper8 on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:49AM (#41158986)
Why wouldn't it?
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by cabby on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:08AM (#41159071)
Correlation vs causation
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by sph on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:30AM (#41159195)
This is good for Bitcoin. (in the longer term)
Re:Stocks trampled as Nikkei crashes 13% by triyambakam on Monday August 05, 2024 @08:39AM (#41160798)
Could you elaborate on why? I can't infer