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Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by crummy on Sunday August 04, 2024 @03:53PM (#41155882)
> A desperate attempt by investors higher up the food chain to salvage the commercial real-estate market.

So how does that work - CEOs are being pressured by, not their VCs I assume, but like... hedge fund managers?

Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by crystal_revenge on Sunday August 04, 2024 @04:03PM (#41155955)
Why not VCs?

Every startup I've known that's attempting RTO is definitely doing so from VC pressure. Of course the announcement from the leadership will never phrase it that way, but when leadership suddenly has some inspiration about the value of working in proximity immediately after a board/investor meeting you can be sure where that inspiration comes from.

Most recently IPO'd startups are also strongly influenced by small numbers of institutional investors that have major sway in decision making. All of those investors have broad portfolios and have a keen interest in keeping commercial real-estate healthy.

At a certain level that pressure comes from the CEOs themselves since they likely have a large number of assets (and/or the company itself does) tied up in commercial real estate. All of those mega-campuses are real estate investments and have a certain value on the books. If the commercial real estate market crashes, the value of those assets does as well.

Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by jupp0r on Sunday August 04, 2024 @05:21PM (#41156427)
That doesn't make sense unless investors own the same building that the company in question is renting office space in.
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by __s on Sunday August 04, 2024 @06:17PM (#41156692)
Not necessarily. More people downtown means more people going out for lunch
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by closeparen on Sunday August 04, 2024 @06:21PM (#41156714)
Tech VCs don’t invest in restaurants. Actually one of the major sources of tension between tech and “communities” is that tech offices usually have onsite amenities, including lunch, so that employees don’t patronize local businesses much.
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by __s on Monday August 05, 2024 @07:38AM (#41160266)
come on, I just listed one second order effect, if restaurants in area succeed that increases property values of entire area
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by jupp0r on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:25PM (#41164540)
For this to be a tangible benefit for any particular investor, a lot of unlikely conditions must be met.
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by joquarky on Sunday August 04, 2024 @09:14PM (#41157439)
People working from home also go out (or order in) for lunch
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by nemomarx on Sunday August 04, 2024 @03:56PM (#41155915)
I think in some places companies got tax breaks predicated on having so many people commute and spend money in a city or etc?
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by gamblor956 on Sunday August 04, 2024 @06:31PM (#41156759)
Basically this... though generally the tax breaks just require local hires within a city or county. Most of them don't have office mandates attached.
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by joquarky on Sunday August 04, 2024 @09:17PM (#41157448)
It seems like they didn't do a comprehensive risk analysis. So why must the employees who had no say in the matter directly pay for the incompetence?
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by bugbuddy on Sunday August 04, 2024 @03:55PM (#41155903)
Pretty sure rich people network is pretty strong.
Re:Tech CEOs are backtrack on RTO mandates–now, 3% want work... by cyanydeez on Sunday August 04, 2024 @04:18PM (#41156051)
Theres a lot of incest with capital and property ownerahip. Id bet plenty of VCs park money in real estate and consequentially lease it back. Similar to how movie productions "lose" money