It's even more surprising that you can't argue with chavistas since there aren't any.

There are plenty in Venezuela, all speaking Spanish to each other.

You would never ever run into one online on a predominantly English speaking website or in America/Europe in person, but you might encounter one of the upper classes.

I used to work with one of them. She complained that Chavez stole her family's second home. I presumed her family, like America, also supported the attempted military coup shortly after he was elected in 2002.

I spent 5 weeks in Venezuela this year.

Good for you. I spent 4 weeks there too a few years ago.

Far braver than I. We waited until this started to improve a bit. Not sure when I'll be back now.

Presumably in an urban area where the voting demographics are much different.

Which propaganda is being spread here?

Something something liberal western mathematics.

If the results are legitimate, how come independent polls were giving 30 percentage points less to Maduro than he obtained? Why were international entities not allowed to observe? And what about the multiple instances of harassment of opposition candidates?

I'm not a fan of US imperialism, but that doesn't mean you need to support any thug whose rethoric opposes the US, going so far as to deny evident reality.

Maybe you should look up who funded the "independent polls".

Maybe Maduro isn't as popular as you think, and you don't need to invoke a conspiracy to explain his ouster.

You're very correct in applying skepticism! Now why don't you do the same to the ruling party's claims?

They have data. You have the claim that it's propaganda, but you don't refute the data (or even the argument). That's not an effective rebuttal; it's just an attempted deflection. In fact, it shouldn't persuade anyone, even someone who is born and brought up in Venezuela.

you submitted data about Iraq, before Iraq invasion and on other countries too. now everyone knows how much truth that was. The point is whenever the country got natural resources such as oil and gas and want to use it for themselves that benefits people they face all this democracy, freedom and election rigging issues. everyone in the world can see that, except people of usa, who are brainwashed too much.

What the hell are you talking about, burner account clown?