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Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by mikrotikker on Tuesday July 30, 2024 @11:23PM (#41116155)
I can't even fathom how those people can survive the heat and humidity let alone walk in it.
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by filoleg on Tuesday July 30, 2024 @11:38PM (#41116209)
Agreed. No matter how good the biking infrastructure in major cities in Japan is (and apparently it was good enough for me to see someone biking at almost any given moment, so I assume it was pretty good), I cannot fathom how people did it. You open a door to the outside, and you feel like you got blasted with a human-sized heatgun. Just standing outside for more than a few minutes, and you pretty much gotta take a shower after. And no, I am not ultra-sensitive to it, as I managed to survive 90F summers in Seattle with no AC just fine before.
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by hammock on Tuesday July 30, 2024 @11:52PM (#41116276)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9281079/

The simple answer is, you adapt (homeostasis)

Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by presentation on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @09:42AM (#41119092)
Don’t worry, Japanese people complain about it all summer. You’re not alone!
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by cinntaile on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @02:35PM (#41121948)
Japan is also a very car-centric country. Most of the time you get to bike on the sidewalk, together with the people on foot.
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by hammock on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @04:04PM (#41122913)
Germany is the same way, the bike lane is often on the sidewalk, however it tends to be a very bike-friendly place
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by filoleg on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @05:16PM (#41123548)
In Japan it wasn’t the case, it was straight up just people bicycling on the sidewalk in-between people walking. They just somehow figured out how to do it in a way that doesn’t disrupt the pedestrians, and I am still not sure how.
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by brigandish on Thursday August 01, 2024 @12:08AM (#41126063)
It does, people just don’t openly complain, much like any other problem - they either put up with it and say しょうがない or they complain in private or (often anonymously) online.

I am one of those annoyed people, I want bike lanes and I don’t understand why a place with so many riders is so anti-bike (aside from understanding the natural societal inclination to think that anything worth doing should be difficult, and made difficult if not).

Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by shiroiushi on Friday August 02, 2024 @06:02AM (#41137480)
I'm a biker and I want bike lanes too, so I don't need to dodge pedestrians. There is some bike infra here, but it's not nearly enough. And there's too many of those stupid painted "sharrows" that no biker with any sense uses because it's either next to too-fast traffic or blocked by parked vehicles.

I think the problem is just the politicians: they probably use cars and never bike or walk in these places.

I think the thing that makes it work the way it does is, as you say, people don't openly complain. They just get out of the way, or ignore the bikers (I prefer the latter as long as a bunch of them aren't blocking the whole sidewalk). In America, they'd be going full Karen and intentionally antagonizing the bikers, or trying to start fights with them, etc. Here, people seem to just recognize it's an imperfect situation, and put up with it instead of making a big deal out of it.

Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by filoleg on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @05:14PM (#41123541)
You are very correct about biking on the sidewalk, but I am not going to lie, I was madly impressed how it created pretty much zero disturbance for pedestrians ever. Totally despite the fact that it was happening all the time.

Meanwhile, had plenty of occasional bicycle/scooter riders in Seattle basically destroying the flow of pedestrians on sidewalks.

Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by drekipus on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @12:45AM (#41116450)
Heat and humidity comes after the decision to not walk and turn everything into roads and parking lots
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by vel0city on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @11:12AM (#41119930)
I can guarantee you Houston was hot and humid well before cars existed.
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by horns4lyfe on Thursday August 01, 2024 @09:38AM (#41128936)
lol there’s plenty of empty land around Houston that’s just as hot, I assure you
Re:If We Want a Shift to Walking, We Need to Prioritize Dignity by GFischer on Wednesday July 31, 2024 @09:58AM (#41119222)
Humidity is the worst part, when it's hot but not so humid it's OK.

And at least here in Montevideo we're literally by the beach. I am two blocks away from being able to swim :)

I do complain a lot about the heat+humidity combination and I use A/C a lot.