News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by gcb on Thursday June 14, 2012 @08:25AM (#4110947)
Why people get excited by a 1.5ghz and half gig ram running something?

I've run web browsers alongside heavy cad applications on way lower hardware and not that long ago.

...think my most responsive desktop so far have been a 150mhz 129mb ram Indy pizza box running irix 5 something, driving a 24" crt with considerable more pixel count than fullhd.

Funny thing, back then, The system config whole ui was Mozilla 2.0 engine with js and css1 or something.

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by JonnieCache on Thursday June 14, 2012 @10:31AM (#4111481)
I'd wager that your sgi workstation drew considerably more than 10 watts though. That's why people get so excited about these things, that and the form factor.

The other thing is the hardware accelerated video decoding, watching 1080p h264 with just 10 watts is undeniably impressive.

EDIT: I have reason to believe the sgi pizzaboxes cost somewhat more than $74 as well, even 80s dollars.

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by ajross on Thursday June 14, 2012 @11:36AM (#4111806)
It's not a battery-powered device. Why is 10 watts exciting except to people interested in power optimization?

Note that there are passively cooled (albeit larger: ITX) Cedar Trail boards available now for about 60% more (total system cost) which outperform this box by a factor of 8x or so, and consume about 30W peak. They have hardware accelerated video too (though the GPU acceleration requires proprietary 32-bit-only drivers).

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by zokier on Thursday June 14, 2012 @11:52AM (#4111900)
Do you have link to the $120 Cedar Trail system you are speaking of?
Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by ajross on Thursday June 14, 2012 @01:12PM (#4112381)
Here's one (just the motherboard for $79US -- add a DIMM and some kind of storage, stick in a box):

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0079VVLZG

I haven't bought one yet, but am eyeing them for my next gadget project. Intel has a family of boards in this price range.

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by duskwuff on Thursday June 14, 2012 @01:19PM (#4112421)
The GMA3650 (aka PowerVR SGX545) graphics chipset used by Cedar Trail is not supported under Linux: http://communities.intel.com/message/158477
Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by ajross on Thursday June 14, 2012 @02:28PM (#4112798)
Not quite (this was discussed just yesterday). There's a framebuffer driver that works just fine. There's a binary GPU driver you can grab from the MeeGo archives which will run on current i686 distros. Graphics are about as well supported under linux (which is not to say "well") as this device is, which limits you to this "Puppy Linux" thing.

And of course for things that are not graphics, it's a PC, not a no-name ARM SoC. You can run RHEL or Ubuntu on it, plug in your favorite PCI card, etc...

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by cfn on Thursday June 14, 2012 @09:17AM (#4111167)
But then there's the size...

The novelty is the size of these devices. I also run Word and Excel on a 386 at 40 Mhz but it was a full tower not a credit card sized box.

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by gcb on Thursday June 14, 2012 @10:01AM (#4111355)
Agree. But we should then be saying "omg 1.5ghz full system in that form factor!" Not that such high spec system can run a sub average set of software intended for old 486

Btw, the pizza boxes were considered incredible small back in early 90s :)

The sgi Indy even had a "portable" version with attached lcd screen.

Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by cfn on Thursday June 14, 2012 @01:00PM (#4112320)
Yes the Indy was a very cool machine. There was also another one that was a cube... cannot remember what it was.
Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by voodoochilo on Thursday June 14, 2012 @09:28AM (#4111217)
yes, 20 years ago nobody could've dreamed about that.
Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by ridruejo on Thursday June 14, 2012 @09:26AM (#4111208)
The excitement is more about being able to carry it in your pocket
Re:Puppy Linux on the MK802 $74 mini PC by voodoochilo on Thursday June 14, 2012 @08:38AM (#4110994)
...because many of them are probably too young to remember those ... other days:)