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Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by benced on Friday July 19, 2024 @04:43PM (#41010961)
The new tech stuff the government has been putting out is legitimately fantastic. login.gov is probably my favorite sign-in experience, maybe slightly behind Google's (and considerably ahead of Apple or Microsoft's).
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by blackeyeblitzar on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:23PM (#41012035)
Do they still force you to share your biometrics with a third party private service (Id.me)?
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by paulirish on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:16PM (#41012442)
Login.gov doesn't.. but plenty of federal sites (like IRS) are still using that id.me poppycock. Here's to hoping they prioritize a migration soon.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by toomuchtodo on Friday July 19, 2024 @08:07PM (#41012805)
Login.gov is adding the capabilities needed to meet IRS’ identity and credential proofing requirements.

Will require biometrics in some form, with fallback to in person proofing at USPS.

Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by Terr_ on Friday July 19, 2024 @08:25PM (#41012915)
I was absolutely flabbergasted that they didn't even white-label the third party stuff behind their own .gov domain, which means they're mis-training users towards "It's normal to hand over extremely sensitive official information to vaguely-plausible-looking companies with websites and certificates ultimately under the control of Montenegro."
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by SoftTalker on Friday July 19, 2024 @09:33PM (#41013255)
And they'll accept anything from you without any ID whatsoever if you just use paper and a postage stamp.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by HeatrayEnjoyer on Saturday July 20, 2024 @08:10AM (#41015902)
What do you mean exactly?
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by photonbeam on Saturday July 20, 2024 @11:05AM (#41016979)
The IRS doesnt require any auth if you print out whatever and mail it to them, no internet. They just believe you
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by redserk on Saturday July 20, 2024 @09:29AM (#41016356)
I doubt any conventional web user knows or cares that “.me” is a ccTLD, or that it’s even related to Montenegro. If anything the reaction is “you don’t need a .com!?”
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by mgiampapa on Friday July 19, 2024 @08:59PM (#41013103)
SSA Already announced the switch to login.gov, it looks like it will have broad support if they are starting the migration there.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by darby_nine on Saturday July 20, 2024 @12:40AM (#41014117)
I don't suppose this implies the end of the social security number as a form of identity access authorization?
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by Uvix on Saturday July 20, 2024 @08:09AM (#41015895)
No, because the government didn’t use it as one, just private businesses.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by xalebf on Friday July 19, 2024 @08:38PM (#41012992)
There’s a ton of interesting stuff at https://www.web.dma.mil/WEB-NextGen/

Just look at the significant links section

Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by mrmetanoia on Friday July 19, 2024 @10:16PM (#41013479)
Yeah it's cool. Lately just feels like they're doing work, not all home runs, but they're out there swinging.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by kylebenzle on Saturday July 20, 2024 @09:43AM (#41016444)
I've noticed this too, night and day from the Trump years.

Here in Ohio we have the Intel plant going up just east of me, goverment spending is great when it works and thats what the Dems have become all about. But the flip side is our courts have been sold off to the highest bidder and our juvinile and family court systems are run like for porfit orphanages with the legal right to seperate children from their families [1]. Big government is great when it works but terrifying when it overreaches as is happening now.

I'm glad everyone is making money but, in more ways than one, we are simply incurring a debt that will have to be paid back by our children.

1. https://www.amazon.com/Injustice-Inc-Americas-Commodifies-Ch...

Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by aragonite on Saturday July 20, 2024 @12:05AM (#41013947)
https://data.gov is also worth mentioning
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by vasco on Saturday July 20, 2024 @06:48AM (#41015514)
It's funny we expect governments stuff to be so bad that when they do something at the level of a regular SaaS our minds are blown.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by adgjlsfhk1 on Saturday July 20, 2024 @10:02AM (#41016576)
it's the virtuous cycle of Republicans running on the meme that the government is inherently bad, then using their power to make it worse
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by polartx on Saturday July 20, 2024 @02:33PM (#41018574)
Oh look, only took 7 comments to find someone that is making the assertion that bad UX is a partisan issue.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by nitwit005 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @01:28PM (#41026589)
It's essentially true. Look at the battle over the IRS trying to make it easier to file taxes. Republicans are strongly opposed.

If the government websites are too good, a lot of useless middlemen will be out of business.

Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by coolsuds420 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @03:51PM (#41027626)
It’s partisan. Progressives obfuscate important information like mug shots and information about the race and intelligence of criminals.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by popalchemist on Monday July 22, 2024 @06:03PM (#41040289)
It may not be true in principle, but it's true in practice.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by benced on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:52PM (#41082639)
To be clear, I like login.gov considerably more than random SaaS logins.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by jmartrican on Saturday July 20, 2024 @09:20AM (#41016287)
reminds me of Snow Crash, where the US federal government is reduced to a software entity.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by Mistletoe on Saturday July 20, 2024 @01:50PM (#41018253)
I remember on some radio show many years back a program where tech people were going back to government to make the tech better. They interviewed the guy that started it and it was really inspiring. I wish I could remember more details. These are true patriots.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by metalang on Saturday July 20, 2024 @02:08PM (#41018391)
You might be thinking of the US Digital Service (https://www.usds.gov/)
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by SteveGerencser on Saturday July 20, 2024 @08:36PM (#41021459)
People like Matt Cutts left Google to do exactly this. Much happier than when he was the head of the Google Search Spam team.
Re:A search engine by and for the federal government by joquarky on Saturday July 20, 2024 @10:39PM (#41021979)