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Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by rob74 on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @08:59AM (#40985396)
Maybe you should read the definition of Universal Basic Income first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income - although it's actually already contained in the name. The proposal is to have less or no bureaucratic hurdles before being able to receive it, and here you are proposing even more bureaucracy...
Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by ziggyzecat on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @09:03AM (#40985444)
I know. The point is that for the biggest part of people receiving money without conditions, does not result in a favorable outcome for society, themselves and only a moderately good outcome for the economy
Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by pif on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @09:43AM (#40985872)
> does not result in a favorable outcome for society

That's your respectable opinion, but the truth is: we don't know!

You may be right, you may be wrong, but this is the crux of the discussion and you cannot swipe it off by stating an opinion as a fact.

Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by ziggyzecat on Thursday July 18, 2024 @04:16AM (#40993554)
Agreed. Thnks for pointing that out. I still didn't get around studying all those fallacies and how to argue logically. I should learn about one per day and find an example when the fallacy becomes a non-fallacy.

But isn't it a measurable factor? ... people get free stuff, people don't question their benefactor, people agree to rely on him, people become dependent beyond the extent of constructive codependence