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Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by IvyMike on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:28PM (#40869673)
The one thing I hate about this: There are so-called "first amendment auditors", who professionally annoy people on the street, trying to provoke a reaction. They monetize the resulting video on youtube.

You used to be able to pull out your phone and play Disney soundtracks or Taylor Swift music which would result in the video being non-monetizable. But improvements in audio isolation techniques have now defeated this countermeasure. Being a professional annoyance is once again a career choice.

Edit: this is one instance I've personally seen: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7IEFxQSJQw/?hl=en&img_index=1

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by tallytarik on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:35PM (#40869718)
I know the sorts of “creators” you’re talking about, but I’ve never heard of this as a response before.

Are there really that many people who 1) are aware that this could be effective, and 2) are quick witted enough to pull their phone out and play music in response to being harassed?

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by thenewwazoo on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:37PM (#40869741)
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by dmix on Thursday July 04, 2024 @01:36AM (#40872550)
A single police car did*
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by TechDebtDevin on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:56PM (#40869914)
While 1st ammendment auditors are cringe, they only annoy police. This comment is definately pro LE coded and the irony does not escape me with its criticism of people expressing their 1st amendment (regardless of how annoying their method).

Perhaps we should demonitize every form of journalism and media that annoys this guy!

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by IvyMike on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @05:12PM (#40870059)
The ones I've seen in person do not "only annoy police"; they may have been trying to provoke a police response, but they were just harassing normies on the street as well. Linking to the ones I've seen: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7IEFxQSJQw/?hl=en&img_index=1
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by PierceJoy on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @05:11PM (#40870050)
I'm not sure what videos you're watching, but the majority of the ones that pop up on my feeds are them annoying non-LE government workers and regular people trying to use government services like the post office, passport office, etc. Yes, the police show up eventually, but only after they've harassed people just trying to do their jobs and live their life.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by TechDebtDevin on Thursday July 04, 2024 @01:39AM (#40872567)
Never seen anything but cops idk, I'll take your word for it. I also find it annoying and therefore rarely watch them as I choose not to watch things that annoy me. Not sure why y'all do.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by aftbit on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @05:23PM (#40870129)
>You used to be able to pull out your phone and play Disney soundtracks or Taylor Swift music which would result in the video being non-monetizable. But improvements in audio isolation techniques have now defeated this countermeasure.

In my opinion, this is a bug, not a feature. If you pull out your phone and play Taylor Swift, you are in fact making a public performance without permission. Even if you had permission (as some cops allegedly do to use some bands music for this purpose), this is not the correct method to deal with professional annoyances.

As a police officer, your job is to be the adult in the room. Society is trusting you with a tremendous amount of power. If you can't handle some annoying whiny YouTubers professionally without using "countermeasures", you should hang up your badge and get another job.

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by ronsor on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @07:21PM (#40870992)
> You used to be able to pull out your phone and play Disney soundtracks or Taylor Swift music which would result in the video being non-monetizable.

This is actually illegal for you to do.

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by lacoolj on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:35PM (#40869724)
You mean like "Billy on the Street"? Or something closer to the "comedy gang" from Viral Hit?

Can't really imagine why you would both give a response to an interview-style question, while being recorded, and simultaneously not want that response to be public. Or are they doing it secretly?

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by IvyMike on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:45PM (#40869808)
I added this to the original post, but here's the incident that I saw that made me aware of the whole scene: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7IEFxQSJQw/?hl=en&img_index=1
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by recursive on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:34PM (#40869717)
This technique relies on bizarrely over-powerful intellectual property infringement counter-measures built into youtube, the platform. Relying on it gives me serious XKCD spacebar-heater vibes. It wasn't designed for that.

Yes, people who are assholes in public are annoying. Shoplifting and bank robbing are probably also career choices. Don't rely on a side effect of "big copyright" systems to save us.

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by TechDebtDevin on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:51PM (#40869856)
Cops on HN!? Just a heads up, you have a choice not to watch and inadvertently reward people who annoy you on the internet.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by leobg on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:47PM (#40869832)
Why not just sue the hell out of them? Would also break their business model really fast.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by office_drone on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:51PM (#40869857)
Because there's no legal basis to sue them.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by mrtesthah on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @05:00PM (#40869953)
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But they'd be forced to pay exorbitant fees to lawyers regardless.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by office_drone on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @05:08PM (#40870031)
If a judge finds that the lawsuit was frivolous then their exorbitant lawyer fees are now yours to pay.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by j-bos on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:34PM (#40869712)
Same with police and citizen videographers. Being a citizen reporter is once again an option.
Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by lannisterstark on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:32PM (#40869703)
>professionally annoy people on street

>Provoke a response

They mostly do it to cops and people in authority. It's their right to do so, they should be able to. They expose so many cops and authoritarians who blatantly do not respect citizens' civil rights. Good for them.

The fact that "oh no you're annoying me I'm going to arrest you because you're annoying" is even a talking point from you is baffling.

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by IvyMike on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @04:41PM (#40869769)
> They mostly do it to cops and people in authority.

In Santa Barbara there is a group that targets random businesses; random shops and restaurants with outdoor eating.

It sucks for the business, it sucks for their clients, it sucks for random people walking by on the street.

I'm all for limiting the unchecked authority we give police, we need to end qualified immunity, etc. But we should take the problem on directly. And I'm all for filming cops who abuse their privilege. But the reality I've seen in person is this is sucky.

> The fact that "oh no you're annoying me I'm going to arrest you because you're annoying" is even a talking point from you is baffling.

Who are you replying to? What did I say that's even close to this. Talk about baffling.

Re:Introducing Voice Isolator and Background Noise Remover by lannisterstark on Thursday July 04, 2024 @12:51AM (#40872391)
>Who are you replying to? What did I say that's even close to this. Talk about baffling.

Good point, I may have misread part of what you said.