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Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by troupo on Monday June 24, 2024 @08:14AM (#40775110)
> Nothing prevents a dev from building an API that returns always "200 OK" when being called for a "terminate subscription" action, but that does nothing under the hood.

Laws. Existing laws prevent developers from doing that.

> As we know, trust is hard-earned, easily lost, and difficult to reestablish. So all it takes is a single bad experience to make me doubt everything else.

This is true.

> The current system allows Apple to control 100% of the process and to be fully responsible for everything.

However, that same system prevent me from buying Kindle books from the Kindle app on device, for example. Even though I can open the browser on that same device and buy them from Amazon.

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by szundi on Monday June 24, 2024 @08:49AM (#40775386)
Laws? Lol. Like bigger part of the world cares.
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by cynix on Monday June 24, 2024 @09:05AM (#40775535)
> Laws. Existing laws prevent developers from doing that.

Laws mean nothing to scammy developers trying to make a quick buck. Would you hire a lawyer to sue for a $4.99 refund? And even if you’re willing to spend that money, are you sure you can figure out who to sue? The scammy developer is likely using some shell company registered in some dodgy jurisdiction. Sure, what they’re doing is illegal, but the average consumer has no real recourse.

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by immibis on Monday June 24, 2024 @11:00AM (#40776868)
My bank gave me a $10 refund, no questions asked, for a service that wouldn't answer cancellation requests. I don't think they even dinged the service, since they tried to bill me again the next month.
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by mcphage on Monday June 24, 2024 @09:36AM (#40775892)
> Laws. Existing laws prevent developers from doing that.

Whose laws? The US's laws? Many app developers aren't in the US.

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by naravara on Monday June 24, 2024 @11:48AM (#40777499)
> However, that same system prevent me from buying Kindle books from the Kindle app on device, for example. Even though I can open the browser on that same device and buy them from Amazon.

I’m sure Apple would actually prefer that you buy the Kindle books on the app, even if they didn’t get a cut of the sale. It is actually Amazon choosing not to do it in order to dodge paying the payment processing fees.

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by ffgjgf1 on Monday June 24, 2024 @12:55PM (#40778330)
> paying the payment processing fees

Was that ever an option? I thought you always had to pay 30% when selling digital goods

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by troupo on Monday June 24, 2024 @01:36PM (#40778721)
Not a single payment processor in the world has a 30% fee while also having a competing product in which they can have the prices arbitrarily low (because they don't care about the 30% fee they pay to themselves).

The egregiously high processing fees from AmEx are at 3.30%.