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Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by HeckFeck on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:39AM (#40737504)
Connotations aside, using a well worn slogan 8 years later is uninspired. This makes it very ironic.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by kibwen on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:51AM (#40737601)
> well worn slogan 8 years later is uninspired

Ironic considering that "Let's Make America Great Again" was Ronald Reagan's campaign slogan in 1980.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by DougN7 on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:02AM (#40737695)
And Hitler used it too.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:14AM (#40737811)
> Hitler used it too

Not really. The closest Nazism had to "Make Germany Great Again" was Völkism [1], an anti-modernist movement looking to resurrect not a proximate golden age but romanticised Ancient Germans.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Völkisch_movement

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by codetrotter on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:15AM (#40737824)
> What's True

> A prominent theme during the Nazi Party's ascendancy was restoring Germany to its former greatness, and Adolf Hitler used the phrase "make Germany great again" upon occasion.

> What's False

> "Make Germany Great Again" was not a (campaign) slogan employed by Hitler, and Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler are far from the only politicians who promised to make their countries "great again."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/make-germany-great-again/

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by michpoch on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:45AM (#40738112)
Hitler wanted to make America Great Again?

He kinda succeeded…

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by UberFly on Thursday June 20, 2024 @11:44AM (#40740014)
Bill Clinton too I believe.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by 3836293648 on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:53AM (#40738188)
Wasn't Thatcher the first?

And Make Britain Great Again is so much better than America/Europe/literally anything that doesn't have great in its name

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by bryanrasmussen on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:56AM (#40738222)
It's true, as an acronym MBGA just slips off the tongue.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by rainsil on Thursday June 20, 2024 @11:46AM (#40740044)
That’s a good thing. Expanded slogans have object-level meanings. Acronyms just stand as identity markers, and are much easier to dismiss.

It’s harder to argue against “Make America Great Again” or “Black Lives Matter”. Their object-level meanings are fairly anodyne and positive. It’s much easier to argue against “MAGA” or “BLM”, since the meaning is obscured by the acronym.

Political movements with nice slogans should avoid turning them into acronyms.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by defrost on Thursday June 20, 2024 @09:09AM (#40738364)
The rebuttal from The Beat flowed

    I see no joy
    I see only sorrow
    I see no chance of your bright new tomorrow

    So stand down Margaret
    Stand down please
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by toyg on Thursday June 20, 2024 @11:19AM (#40739724)
It's fun to stay at the EEEEEM BE GEE AY, It's fun to stay at the EEEEM BE GEE AY...
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by AnimalMuppet on Thursday June 20, 2024 @09:53AM (#40738819)
It's even more ironic when Trump uses it. Like, weren't you supposed to do that 8 years ago? What happened? You didn't do it? Why should we think you'll do it this time?

I mean, I guess it's become like a brand name. But if you think about it for a minute, it's carrying a subtext that Trump failed last time.