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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by bsder on Monday June 17, 2024 @02:57AM (#40702951)
> NixOS elevates the entire discussion.

NixOS and Docker and other Linux container and isolation madness only exist because the Linux illuminati can't admit that zones and ZFS got it right.

I wish Linux would just STFU and copy them already. Given the amount of code that has been spilled, Linux could have cleanroom reimplemented zones and ZFS 10 times over by now.

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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by irusensei on Monday June 17, 2024 @03:13AM (#40703019)
Thats only half of the picture. These tools gain traction because of orchestration and reproducibility. Nix, NixOS and Dockerfiles allow you to define an entire structure through infrastructure code. Is there something similar on any current BSD?
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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by cess11 on Monday June 17, 2024 @05:26AM (#40703813)
Just use ZFS with Linux? It's been available as kernel modules for I don't know how long.
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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by darby_nine on Monday June 17, 2024 @08:33AM (#40704951)
I was under the impression that was the much less reliable implementation of ZFS but maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.
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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by anotherhue on Monday June 17, 2024 @08:43AM (#40705032)
No it's the one true implementation now. With original flavour developers and everything.
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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by pjmlp on Monday June 17, 2024 @06:00AM (#40703978)
And HP-UX Vaults.
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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by anotherhue on Monday June 17, 2024 @08:45AM (#40705058)
No, zones / jails are about isolation. I'm talking about composability and repeatability.

The process feels more like compiling a program than decorating a house.

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Re:OpenBSD, the computer appliance maker's secret weapon by yjftsjthsd-h on Monday June 17, 2024 @12:03PM (#40707112)
So... Linux literally has ZFS, ported wholesale from OpenSolaris, and is also homegrowing BTRFS and bcachefs as alternatives. I don't think zones could be ported as easily as ZFS, but LXC seems like a pretty close recreation, and honestly for most people I think docker was an improvement.
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