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Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by OJFord on Thursday June 13, 2024 @04:54PM (#40674655)
That is nonsense, I was at school with mobile phones before the iPhone (before touchscreens, non-Java-applet apps, 3G, etc.) and it absolutely would've been even then. I mean maybe you'd have gotten away with it being active on MSN, but it'd have been a problem for sure (you arrange to meet someone and then just go there and hope they show up at the right time and don't want to change plans?) and I think far more so today without even considering social media like Instagram & TikTok & whatever that 'everyone' is using.

(They weren't allowed actually at school though, weren't even supposed to be in your locker, so I always think it's a bit weird when it occasionally pops up debate about banning them from schools or that X school has banned them - curious when and why they allowed them, or maybe they were just always allowed to begin with?)

Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by tanseydavid on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:25PM (#40674969)
>> then just go there and hope they show up at the right time and don't want to change plans

Why make plans in the first place then? Changing plans at the last minute is really inconsiderate behavior.

Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by OJFord on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:32PM (#40675038)
Because you're 12 or whatever and do have a phone and so-and-so just texted that everyone (omg, right) is actually going to be down by the river instead, are you coming?

Of course you are, but tanseydavid thinks he's meeting you in town and doesn't have a phone...

Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by hot_gril on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:35PM (#40675071)
Teens don't plan things this way. It's more like, a few are together somewhere, someone is coming late, and the group is a moving target.
Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by OJFord on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:42PM (#40675148)
I'm only just old enough for it, but before mobile phones (I mean, they existed, but we were schoolchildren not businesspeople, before small relatively cheap Nokias I suppose) we'd 'call on' people to see if they were in and if so did they want to do whatever/go wherever... Thinking about it now, I think mobiles probably had quite a role in changing that: we got phones and then just started texting (hey wuu2 do u wnt 2 go in2 town l8r) instead.

I imagine now it's just straight to the latter, (albeit with less txt spk and more memes & emoji) because children get phones and start making their own plans at about the same age. (And not by coincidence probably - they're arranging to meet friends and going out alone, so parent wants to be able to contact them, to stay in the loop, etc.)

Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by em-bee on Saturday June 15, 2024 @08:38AM (#40689415)
its called spontaneity, and that's a healthy thing.

if you find out about something interesting that you didn't know before, why should you not be able to change your plans to go see or do it?

hey, i just got some free tickets for that show, so how about we cancel dinner and go there?

Re:Taking away iPhone made daughter a better person by hot_gril on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:02PM (#40674740)
Regular dumb phones were useful then and are still useful, just for coordinating. Smartphone is a superset of a GameBoy Advance now. Literally kids in my school were emulating GBA on their iPhones. There are in-betweens nowadays like a smartphone with parental controls.