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Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by pylua on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:36PM (#40640978)
Wouldn’t the us government step in if intel was bombed in Israel ?
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by clipsy on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:40PM (#40641009)
Would it matter? There's no response that will magically rebuild a fab overnight. Better to build it somewhere it's unlikely to be bombed in the first place.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by nebula8804 on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:41PM (#40641722)
Yeah...so lets put our crown fab in a desert that is slowly being reclaimed by the planet.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by sudosysgen on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:18PM (#40641906)
The entire fertile crescent is a desert that is being reclaimed by the planet. I don't see how Israel is in any better of a position, there: despite old narratives to the contrary, desertification is not any less of a problem in Israel than in other deserts, and as global warming continues there is growing evidence that in fact anti-desertification efforts in Israel are backfiring. Given the political situation, it's more likely that desertification can be obviated for the purposes of a fab in an American desert than in really any other in the world.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by nebula8804 on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:22PM (#40641933)
Was talking about Arizona seeing as how their top fab is being built there and things like this are happening:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/16/us/arizona-water-rio-verd...

But yes Dubai possibly, Israel, and the like are also goners long term.

Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by richrichie on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:48PM (#40641757)
>reclaimed by the planet

you mean the desert was taken away from the planet and the planet is claiming it back? where will it go?

Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by nebula8804 on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:52PM (#40641773)
We are all dirt that emerged from the planet. Sooner or later (probably sooner) the planet takes back what belongs to it.

[1]:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/16/us/arizona-water-rio-verd...

Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by richrichie on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:56PM (#40641798)
Are you saying there are things that planet has that do not belong to it?
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by nebula8804 on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:18PM (#40641912)
No I am saying we are all dirt that emerged from the planet. Sooner or later (probably sooner) the planet takes back what belongs to it.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by richrichie on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:51PM (#40642120)
But, we ARE the planet. It is arrogant to visualize ourselves and what we create as something external to the planet.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by nebula8804 on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:55PM (#40642142)
You are agreeing with me. As dirt that emerged from the planet, we are a subset of the entire planet and thus are subject to its whims.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by richrichie on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:14AM (#40642256)
We agree, indeed
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by pseudo0 on Monday June 10, 2024 @09:30PM (#40641311)
Consider the indirect risks as well:

- A significant fraction of your workforce are reservists who might disappear for months with little notice.

- Potential trade disruption due to Israel's highly controversial actions in Gaza (eg. Turkey halting all trade with Israel).

- Shipping disruption and increased cost due to Houthi attacks.

- Potential sanctions or BDS campaigns, like South Africa.

- Difficult to convince international employees to relocate to a conflict zone.

Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by ngneer on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @01:16AM (#40642616)
Intel Israel has never missed a wafer, despite all of the above
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by trogdor on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @02:22PM (#40649698)
What does “missed a wafer” mean?
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by ngneer on Friday June 14, 2024 @09:16PM (#40686707)
Chips come on wafers. Wafers come in lots. To miss a wafer is to deliver a wafer later than promised, delaying the lot. Intel Israel has never delivered a wafer late.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by akira2501 on Monday June 10, 2024 @09:13PM (#40641189)
In a way different than they are now? Or do you mean literally put troops on the ground there to protect an offshore branch of a US multinational corporation?
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by hot_gril on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:43PM (#40641027)
The US govt has already stepped in
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by pubg on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:41PM (#40641011)
You are right, and also Israel as a region is still highly unstable. Do you want to travel there today? I'll pass, thanks :)
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by fortran77 on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:01PM (#40641821)
I'm flying to Israel after shavuot, this Thursday. I'll feel much safer in Israel than I do in the United States.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by TechDebtDevin on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:13PM (#40641880)
Cool, that's your opinion (weirldly). Haven't seen many rockets landing in the USA or any missile defense systems needing deployed. Get a grip.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by fortran77 on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:15PM (#40641892)
Haven't seen people calling for my extermination at Ben Gurion University.
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by AdamJacobMuller on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:36PM (#40641695)
100% would go back today.

Drove through Be'er Sheva in 2019 while Hamas was sending rockets (earlier the same day I was there, not at exactly the same time) and would go back again without hesitation.

Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by richrichie on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:54PM (#40641786)
You should go back often.

The tourism industry is effectively dead [1]. If your visit - even at the risk of losing a limb or death - can feed a single Israeli for a day, you must visit.

1. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240208-gaza-war-para...

Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by TechDebtDevin on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:14PM (#40641886)
This article makes me happy :)
Re:Intel pauses work on $25B Israel fab by demondemidi on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @02:17AM (#40643064)
During the attack on Haifa in the 2000s an intel site was hit.