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Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by vjulian on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:34PM (#40638651)
Could you please explain ‘lay bare organisational deficiencies’? I ask without skepticism.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by theshrike79 on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:47PM (#40638842)
Most companies don't have an unified platform they can build this on. And even if they seem to have superficially, the internal organisation is so splintered that it'll never happen.

Like what's going on inside Google, it's getting stupidly political and infighty. If someone tries to build a comprehensive LLM that touches on gmail, youtube, docs, sheets etc, it's going to be an uphill battle.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by Jtsummers on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:59PM (#40639020)
And even if they did, there'd be five competing efforts, two would be good or at least decent, four would be deployed (not the best one though), and all would be replaced in three years.

None of them would work on-device, all would leak your data into the training set.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by theshrike79 on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:31AM (#40642359)
And two of them would be killed within a year and/or renamed/rebranded :)
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by matwood on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @02:00AM (#40642951)
And you forgot, if it was Google they would also all have their own internal chat service.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by sakisv on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:09PM (#40639773)
They did do that. Back in 2013-2015 or so. It was called Google Now, and it was a bit like magic.

It showed you contextual cards based on your upcoming trips/appointments/traveling patterns. E.g. Any tube delays on your way home from work. How early you should leave to catch your flight.

This alongside Google Inbox was among the best and most "futuristic" products.

I was glad to see today Apple implementing something similar to both of these.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by simonh on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:29PM (#40639967)
But it was a decent new Google product, hence all the past tenses.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by drcongo on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @05:39AM (#40644289)
Google Then™
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by jbl0ndie on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:39PM (#40640062)
I've always been baffled why those two got canned. They were both really useful.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by camjohnson26 on Monday June 10, 2024 @11:43PM (#40642068)
Canceling Google Inbox was when I started to move off their platform, it was their best product in years and finally got a handle on email chaos, and then they just killed it with no follow up, insane.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by theshrike79 on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:32AM (#40642362)
Google Now was actually a great idea, it was the only "social" media I actually understood.

No wonder they killed it.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by dwaite on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @07:08AM (#40644839)
Nothing compared to the fighting between whether the Office team or the Platform team at Microsoft owned the AI 'client' work, if we were back in the Windows 7 days.

There'd be constant sabotage.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by ahmeneeroe-v2 on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:44PM (#40638799)
I assume they mean: expose internal corporate silos/VP-fiefdoms that don't work seamlessly together despite being marketed under the same brand
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by dmix on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:50PM (#40638889)
Google is quite notorious for having this issue from various blog posts and HN comments I've read.

Lots of middle management power groups that would prevent a cohesive top down vision from easily being adopted.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by ljm on Monday June 10, 2024 @05:17PM (#40639221)
The same as any enterprise company. It’s all office politics and bureaucracy.

Make no mistake, Google is Enterprise.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by yen223 on Monday June 10, 2024 @10:05PM (#40641524)
This is the norm, not the exception for big companies.

The more I spend time in mid-large companies, the more I'm amazed that that Apple somehow managed to avoid releasing three different messaging apps that do the same thing.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by drevil-v2 on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:09AM (#40654415)
Now it makes sense why Elon Musk trims the fat on his companies ruthlessly and regularly
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by gumby on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:45PM (#40641037)
The phenomenon is called “Conway’s Law”: a product reflects the organizational structure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law