https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Hitler+portrait+by+Heinrich+Knirr&...
This is a terminally online meme; it does not exist in the real world.
EDIT: to the replies -- no, this has not escaped containment in to the real world. Trolls continue to use it and to point out its usage by other trolls. But this is and remains an extremely common hand gesture routinely used by people with no racist overtones.
EDIT2: This is now a reply to a flagged dead comment so the only people who will see this are the people who are already in the conversation. I don't think I'll convince you, but please realize that the WaPo newsroom and twitter are not the real world. When people flash you the Ok symbol they are just signifying approval, not trying to lure you into their white supremacist world. When you give people the Ok symbol, you are expressing approval, and that is all. Nobody will think otherwise. When a white supremacist gives the Ok symbol to another white supremacist, they are expressing approval, like giving a thumbs up. There's no crypto-racist movement here that's sending secret coded messages to other crypto-racists. It's not like Bloods and Crips where flashing the wrong hand sign is going to get you beat up.
And on Jan 6: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2021/far-r...
And the Proud Boys: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/
Yes it started as "a joke" to troll the libs. And then became and has been used as intended.
Proud boys != white power group or white nationalist group.
So I'm not sure what you think you're correcting here.
Instead you seem to be claiming that right-wingers use the symbol, ergo it is racist or white power affiliated. That claim is false. Just because someone is a republican, doesnt make them a racist.
> The title refers to the secret hand signal used by the film's underworld gang.
Yep, agreed
> no, this has not escaped containment in to the real world
> Trolls continue to use it
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It's not a good look to make excuses and carry the water for white supremacists by denying reality. The online world is quite real, and it has an enormous impact on the offline subset of the world that you naively consider to have a monopoly on "real".
A simple google would inform you about the reality of how that symbol is currently used in the real world, regardless of whether you consider google "real" or not. See the sibling comments and the articles and real-world photographs they link to, who took the effort to google that for you. Your argument that you've never seen any evidence is extremely weak if you refuse to look at the evidence when it's presented to you on a silver platter, and that makes you look like just another troll.
[1] https://gizmodo.com/pirate-bay-trial-watch-day-5-omg-is-this...
Pirate Bay Trial Watch Day 5: OMG, Is This Happening IRL?
The torrent trial of the century continues, and today, there are some pretty shocking revelations about just how much the prosecution knows. Is that a tinge of remorse I hear from The Pirate Bay dudes?
• The Pirate Bay's Peter Sunde (aka brokep) doesn't like copyright! "I like things that are not protected by copyright, this is a non-issue."
• The prosecutor knows the secret code for talking on the internets! "When did you meet [Gottfrid] for the first time IRL?" The judge asks, "IRL?" The prosecutor, being with it, coolly informs the judge it means "in real life," sucka.
• Oh snap, maybe he doesn't! The Pirate Bay's Peter responds, "We do not use the expression IRL." No, everything is in real life. We use AFK—away from keyboard." This makes for a sad prosecutor: "It seems I am a little bit out of date."
Popehat's Law of Goats
He who fucks goats, either as part of a performance or to troll those he deems has overly delicate sensibilities is simply, a goatfucker.
"He claimed he was just pretending to be racist to trigger the social justice warriors, but even if he is telling the truth, Popehat's Law of Goats still applies."
Fucking a goat in this analogy is equivalant to BEING RACIST. E.g. commiting hate crimes, etc
The hand gesture is not in and of itself racist, therefore doing it does not make one a racist, or a goatfucker.
But nice try.
You're allowed to be racist if you want and you're allowed to pretend you're a racist if you want. The goatfucker law still applies.
Im not justifying racism.
God people on the internet are fucking braindead when it comes to politics.
Likewise, trolling racist memes perpetuates racism, and if you perpetuate racism, you're a racist, because of the effects of you behavior on other people, regardless of your purported intent, even if you claim to be only pretending. Either way, you perpetuated racism, which hurts people.
Bravely standing up for goat fuckers and racists and trolls doesn't look good on you. Try standing up for the victims of racism instead of the perpetrators. Your edgelord act is extremely tired and juvenile. Gamegate is over, kiddo. Steve Bannon is reporting to jail on July 1.
How the far right borrowed its online moves from gamers:
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/20/gamergate-right-online-hara...
>In particular, Donovan notes that Steve Bannon saw firsthand the power of Gamergate while running Breitbart News.
>Bannon took notes from the gaming controversy as well as from movements on the left, like Occupy, to develop strategies to apply in mainstream politics in Trump's 2016 campaign and from the White House.
>That expanded the use of online attack methods on a wider range of issues and, more recently, made them a significant part of mainstream right-wing politics.
Donald Trump and Steve Bannon need angry young men. They’re using Gamergate culture to get them:
https://qz.com/901761/donald-trump-and-steve-bannon-are-usin...
>Gamergate is a loose collection of disaffected (mostly) men who have used the issue of ethics in gaming journalism as a pretext to harass and attack women and many minority groups. The movement got its start in 2014 when a young man wanted to exact revenge on his ex-girlfriend. What started as a simple blog post became a campaign of harassment spearheaded by anonymous users on platforms like Reddit and 4chan. Gamergate has since used Twitter and other social-media platforms to lob misogynistic, homophobic, and anti-Semitic attacks on its critics.
What Gamergate should have taught us about the 'alt-right':
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/01/gamergate...
>The 2014 online hate-storm presaged the tactics of the Trump-loving far right movement. Prominent critics of the president elect should take note. The similarities between Gamergate and the current so called ‘alt-right’ movement are huge, startling, and in no way a coincidence.
Steve Bannon learned to harness troll army from 'World of Warcraft':
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/st...
>Before Steve Bannon oversaw the conservative Breitbart News Network and, subsequently, joined then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign, the chief political strategist became a player in Hollywood and ... World of Warcraft.
>"You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." -Steve Bannon
Steve Bannon ordered to report to prison by July 1 to serve contempt of Congress sentence:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics/steve-bannon-jai...
>A federal judge on Thursday ordered Steve Bannon to report to prison by July 1, giving the former Donald Trump adviser a short window to get a higher court’s intervention.
That is exactly how all social signals work.
https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/suspected-new-zealand-shooter-...
Note: I do think people are sometimes too ambitious to leap toward accidental/arguable "flashing" of this sign as evidence of this belief system, but there are absolutely people who are consciously, deliberately, and sincerely doing it.
Wrong. Thats everyone that uses the hand sign. The joke is that cnn watched dipshits think its some kinda of white supremecist signal, so its funny to do to get under peoples skin. Thats literally all there is to it. Has nothing to do with any white power movement.
Do you know where its current popularity came from? A childrens game called ballgazer.
You're purposely making other people mistake you for a racist... solely for the purpose of upsetting them... and when they get upset and think you're a racist... they're the "dipshits"?
Yeah, everyone knows the origin and they know the cover story. Even and especially in light of those facts, if a grown adult does it, they're either 1) a racist, 2) an asshole, 3) a moron, or 4) a combination of the above. No one is calling out children for playing a children's game. They're calling out adults who are either identifying as racists or pretend identifying as racists in order to be an asshole to other people, otherwise known as "being an asshole."
Oh look, the guy who is racist is flashing the ok symbol. His buddy, who is in the same spaces online is flashing the symbol as a joke. How can we not make certain assumptions about the second person and what they think?
It more accurately indicates affiliation with irony poisoned youth who get off on making people look stupid online
You're the one jumping to unfounded conclusions about people, instead of taking what they tell you (or hand gesture) about themselves at face value, and your choice of who you logically contort and lie to defend, and who you attack as "radical" merely for calling out racism, paints an extremely sad and revealing picture of the kind of person you truly are.
When somebody tells you they're a racist, believe them. And your intellectually dishonest arguments are telling me just that, so I believe you.
But you knew that.
The hand symbol is a running joke about looking at someone elses testicles. The peoppe that play this game are rowdy adolescent boys. Those boys went online and made ironic racist jokes, as young boys do, and now somehow people think its a symbol of white power. Anyone who knows whats going on is laughing at your foolishness.
You're trying to argue that it's only to rile people up, with no racist intent, then you're getting totally riled up yourself, defending intentional racists. So what's wrong with me successfully doing the exact same thing you're trying to defend, back to you? According to your own words, I should be laughing at you. If you don't like being on the receiving end, then perhaps you shouldn't be defending people who dish it out.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/
Roger Stone is 71 years old, not a teenage boy. He was convicted of seven felony charges, including witness tampering, lying to congress, and obstruction, in relation to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, and he's a trusted advisor to Donald Trump who had White House access and still hangs out with him at Mar-a-Lago. Not a teenaged boy for 52 years, but definitely a racist hanging out with a bunch of other racists. And here you are defending him, with your idiotic "boys will be boys" argument, while acting just like a teenage boy yourself.
You claimed it makes you laugh when you trick people into thinking you're a racist asshole. Well you've convinced me of that quite well with lots of evidence of your own words, so why are you angrily fuming instead of laughing? Now that you've convinced everyone that you're a racist asshole, you should declare victory, laugh, and shut up. Mission accomplished!
Again, you may be yourself, but Roger Stone is not a teenage boy, and neither are the Proud Boys he's sitting with in that photograph, flashing their White Supremacist signs. That destroys your argument. And you are still unable to respond to that, and you just get angrier and angrier and more incoherent every time I point that out. Why aren't you laughing like you said you would?
Your just being weird as fuck homie. Flying off the handle for no real reason. And im not laughing cause I am not a troll. Matter of fact, why am I still responding to you? Eat shit.
And your pathetic excuses that it's only teenage boys doing that, and that you know for a fact that all teenage boys who do that are only pretending to be racist because it's impossible for a teenage boy to actually be racist, only reveals that you yourself actually did that when you were a teenage boy, and you still haven't grown up and matured mentally enough to admit that it was wrong.
Your ridiculous "boys will be boys" argument is absolute unmitigated bullshit, trying to justify your own misbehavior and racist beliefs you still haven't grown out of. You certainly sound exactly like a racist goat fucking teenaged boy. What other possible explanation is there for you carrying their water by making such disingenuous untrue arguments, and ignoring the counter arguments?
And you're arguing in bad faith and ignoring the evidence other people are showing you, like the photograph of the Proud Boys who attacked the US Capitol on January 6 and Roger Stone all flashing that White Supremacist symbol fully knowing what it means and intending it to be understood that way, when NONE if them are teenaged boys. Those fully grown men are violent White Supremacists, and Roger Stone is 71 years old, not a teenaged boy.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/roger-stone-proud-boys/
Roger Stone was convicted of seven felony charges, including witness tampering, lying to congress, and obstruction, in relation to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, and he's a trusted advisor to Donald Trump who had White House access and still hangs out with him at Mar-a-Lago. Not a teenaged boy for 52 years, but definitely a racist hanging out with a bunch of other racists. And here you are defending him.